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Posted by TheLadyScorpioI 100% agree with this.
When a woman walks into a date, feeling entitled to a free meal, at times those same women feel entitled to things beyond a mere free meal as well.
For a man, it could be a red flag. Granted, it is most certainly nice of a man to treat you to a date / dinner, but be a lady. Thank him and be appreciative but do not be a female dog about it.
Entitlement, is always an ugly trait.
From my experience, men feel much more at ease to treat you well, and to shower you with nice things /experiences when you ask little of them. Let them step up and do the courting, and they usually will. You may be surprised at what they are willing to do as well.



Posted by nikkistarI have had similar experiences as well, therefore I agree with what you have shared. ๐Posted by TheLadyScorpioI 100% agree with this.
When a woman walks into a date, feeling entitled to a free meal, at times those same women feel entitled to things beyond a mere free meal as well.
For a man, it could be a red flag. Granted, it is most certainly nice of a man to treat you to a date / dinner, but be a lady. Thank him and be appreciative but do not be a female dog about it.
Entitlement, is always an ugly trait.
From my experience, men feel much more at ease to treat you well, and to shower you with nice things /experiences when you ask little of them. Let them step up and do the courting, and they usually will. You may be surprised at what they are willing to do as well.
My cancer is by far less financially secure. I gross just under 6 digits a year, and my Cancer makes 1/3 of what I do. However, I never try to immaculate him, because I know to do so, would be terrible for our relationship.
He often takes me out, and 9/10 times, he pays. I ask every time if he wants me to, but he won't let me pay. However, I also tailor what type of date we are having to be more respectful of his financial circumstances.
It's one of the main reasons why I adored him so much.click to expand

Posted by rockyroadicecreamExactly! I like treating my man out too it makes me feel more like a partner then a financial liability?
Do I expect it? No. I always go in expecting to pay for myself. If he insists, I let him. I'll protest, but eventually let him have his way because he wants to do it and it makes him feel all masculine or whatever, then fine.
I dislike women who expect guys to do it. It's rude. I also dislike that guys have expected strings attached when paying for dinner. They essentially turn you into their personal prostitute in that sense.
"Well I paid for you, so I'm entitled to your vagina."


Posted by shakedownYea, my Cancer is in debt, and I often offer to pay for some of his debt, but that's a no go. I leave it at that. I don't ever push the subject more than once.Posted by nikkistarMy situation is just the opposite. My husband makes much more than I. However, I often insist that I pay. Sometimes, he accepts just to make me feel like I am "contributing." This is partly the reason I am in debt.Posted by TheLadyScorpioI 100% agree with this.
When a woman walks into a date, feeling entitled to a free meal, at times those same women feel entitled to things beyond a mere free meal as well.
For a man, it could be a red flag. Granted, it is most certainly nice of a man to treat you to a date / dinner, but be a lady. Thank him and be appreciative but do not be a female dog about it.
Entitlement, is always an ugly trait.
From my experience, men feel much more at ease to treat you well, and to shower you with nice things /experiences when you ask little of them. Let them step up and do the courting, and they usually will. You may be surprised at what they are willing to do as well.
My cancer is by far less financially secure. I gross just under 6 digits a year, and my Cancer makes 1/3 of what I do. However, I never try to emasculate him, because I know to do so, would be terrible for our relationship.
He often takes me out, and 9/10 times, he pays. I ask every time if he wants me to, but he won't let me pay. However, I also tailor what type of date we are having to be more respectful of his financial circumstances.
It's one of the main reasons why I adored him so much.
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Posted by rockyroadicecreamI edited already once I saw it, but I was quoted too late. lol
PSA-
It's, "emasculate," ladies.


Posted by MoonbutterYeeep.Posted by rockyroadicecreamExactly! I like treating my man out too it makes me feel more like a partner then a financial liability?
Do I expect it? No. I always go in expecting to pay for myself. If he insists, I let him. I'll protest, but eventually let him have his way because he wants to do it and it makes him feel all masculine or whatever, then fine.
I dislike women who expect guys to do it. It's rude. I also dislike that guys have expected strings attached when paying for dinner. They essentially turn you into their personal prostitute in that sense.
"Well I paid for you, so I'm entitled to your vagina."click to expand

Posted by nikkistarhaha, you're fine. When I saw it a second time in another post, I thought I'd just throw that out there.Posted by rockyroadicecreamI edited already once I saw it, but I was quoted too late. lol
PSA-
It's, "emasculate," ladies.click to expand

Posted by shakedownNo, he works as my top escort. Dude inspires poems from my clientele.Posted by ChrisIsKodakI might be making a mistake, but you are a school teacher, right? I am too. So you know what we make. This of course depends on the "step." I could be mistaken??Posted by shakedownawww stop it please. lmaoPosted by nikkistarMy situation is just the opposite. My husband makes much more than I. However, I often insist that I pay. Sometimes, he accepts just to make me feel like I am "contributing." This is partly the reason I am in debt.Posted by TheLadyScorpioI 100% agree with this.
When a woman walks into a date, feeling entitled to a free meal, at times those same women feel entitled to things beyond a mere free meal as well.
For a man, it could be a red flag. Granted, it is most certainly nice of a man to treat you to a date / dinner, but be a lady. Thank him and be appreciative but do not be a female dog about it.
Entitlement, is always an ugly trait.
From my experience, men feel much more at ease to treat you well, and to shower you with nice things /experiences when you ask little of them. Let them step up and do the courting, and they usually will. You may be surprised at what they are willing to do as well.
My cancer is by far less financially secure. I gross just under 6 digits a year, and my Cancer makes 1/3 of what I do. However, I never try to emasculate him, because I know to do so, would be terrible for our relationship.
He often takes me out, and 9/10 times, he pays. I ask every time if he wants me to, but he won't let me pay. However, I also tailor what type of date we are having to be more respectful of his financial circumstances.
It's one of the main reasons why I adored him so much.
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Posted by nikkistarWe are in similar positions nikki. I also make more than my younger gem and he was very adamant about paying when we were first dating. Sometimes when he went to the bathroom I would sneak over and pay the check.Posted by TheLadyScorpioI 100% agree with this.
When a woman walks into a date, feeling entitled to a free meal, at times those same women feel entitled to things beyond a mere free meal as well.
For a man, it could be a red flag. Granted, it is most certainly nice of a man to treat you to a date / dinner, but be a lady. Thank him and be appreciative but do not be a female dog about it.
Entitlement, is always an ugly trait.
From my experience, men feel much more at ease to treat you well, and to shower you with nice things /experiences when you ask little of them. Let them step up and do the courting, and they usually will. You may be surprised at what they are willing to do as well.
My cancer is by far less financially secure. I gross just under 6 digits a year, and my Cancer makes 1/3 of what I do. However, I never try to emasculate him, because I know to do so, would be terrible for our relationship.
He often takes me out, and 9/10 times, he pays. I ask every time if he wants me to, but he won't let me pay. However, I also tailor what type of date we are having to be more respectful of his financial circumstances.
It's one of the main reasons why I adored him so much.click to expand

Posted by LadyNeptuneI tried that with John, he gave me the silent treatment the rest of the night. Tried it again when we ordered pizza one time, he grabbed the phone from me when I was giving my debit card, and gave them his.Posted by nikkistarWe are in similar positions nikki. I also make more than my younger gem and he was very adamant about paying when we were first dating. Sometimes when he went to the bathroom I would sneak over and pay the check.Posted by TheLadyScorpioI 100% agree with this.
When a woman walks into a date, feeling entitled to a free meal, at times those same women feel entitled to things beyond a mere free meal as well.
For a man, it could be a red flag. Granted, it is most certainly nice of a man to treat you to a date / dinner, but be a lady. Thank him and be appreciative but do not be a female dog about it.
Entitlement, is always an ugly trait.
From my experience, men feel much more at ease to treat you well, and to shower you with nice things /experiences when you ask little of them. Let them step up and do the courting, and they usually will. You may be surprised at what they are willing to do as well.
My cancer is by far less financially secure. I gross just under 6 digits a year, and my Cancer makes 1/3 of what I do. However, I never try to emasculate him, because I know to do so, would be terrible for our relationship.
He often takes me out, and 9/10 times, he pays. I ask every time if he wants me to, but he won't let me pay. However, I also tailor what type of date we are having to be more respectful of his financial circumstances.
It's one of the main reasons why I adored him so much.click to expand


Posted by HareQueso?
What if it's two guys? Does the bottom or the top pay?
Also...What if it's two women? Do they just run out of the restaurant and ride away real fast on their Harley without paying?

Posted by HareThat's gonna take a few years. Good luck.Posted by nikkistarNo dairy I'm starting my looksmaxing regimine.Posted by HareQueso?
What if it's two guys? Does the bottom or the top pay?
Also...What if it's two women? Do they just run out of the restaurant and ride away real fast on their Harley without paying?
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Posted by Neno2Posted by nikkistarofc a man should always pay,thats a must here,i could not go somewhere and let the woman pay
I just watched a video last night, of a guy asking if men should always pay for dinner. I found it fascinating the amount of "yeas" I heard when he asked if men should always pay for dinner. I have never been one to think a man should pay, but it got me thinking. How many women actually think it is the man's responsibility to pay for everything regardless of the length of the relationship?
For me, I sided with the speaker. But that is me.
Here is the video in case some of you want to watch it.
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Posted by EvoxxxscorpioIt's not about should. Neither LS's, Tiziani, or even my comment says a man SHOULD pay. It is often that a man does because men have an innate sense of wanting to be the provider and protector.Posted by Infinite8I do have manners but why should a guy pay for dinner?Posted by TheLadyScorpio
When a woman walks into a date, feeling entitled to a free meal, at times those same women feel entitled to things beyond a mere free meal as well.
For a man, it could be a red flag. Granted, it is most certainly nice of a man to treat you to a date / dinner, but be a lady. Thank him and be appreciative but do not be a female dog about it.
Entitlement, is always an ugly trait.
From my experience, men feel much more at ease to treat you well, and to shower you with nice things /experiences when you ask little of them. Let them step up and do the courting, and they usually will. You may be surprised at what they are willing to do as well.
I think @Tiziani and LadyScorp said it best.
It's a mix of how you were brought up and manners. It's NOT about entitlement.
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Posted by EvoxxxscorpioDon't!Posted by Infinite8I do have manners but why should a guy pay for dinner?Posted by TheLadyScorpio
When a woman walks into a date, feeling entitled to a free meal, at times those same women feel entitled to things beyond a mere free meal as well.
For a man, it could be a red flag. Granted, it is most certainly nice of a man to treat you to a date / dinner, but be a lady. Thank him and be appreciative but do not be a female dog about it.
Entitlement, is always an ugly trait.
From my experience, men feel much more at ease to treat you well, and to shower you with nice things /experiences when you ask little of them. Let them step up and do the courting, and they usually will. You may be surprised at what they are willing to do as well.
I think @Tiziani and LadyScorp said it best.
It's a mix of how you were brought up and manners. It's NOT about entitlement.
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Posted by ChrisIsKodakPosted by EvoxxxscorpioNot my opinion its just a cultural/societal norm. I honestly had women take me out and pay for the dinner, it didn't faze or emasculate me. Nor do I talke about it because it sounds douchey to me. *shrugs*Posted by ChrisIsKodaklol that's the old fashion way but not gonna disagree with your opinion.Posted by Evoxxxscorpiosets an impression and standard.Posted by ChrisIsKodaklol I agree with being the provider and the protector that's if you two are official but on a first date?Posted by EvoxxxscorpioMen by nature - Providers and protectors.Posted by Infinite8I do have manners but why should a guy pay for dinner?Posted by TheLadyScorpio
When a woman walks into a date, feeling entitled to a free meal, at times those same women feel entitled to things beyond a mere free meal as well.
For a man, it could be a red flag. Granted, it is most certainly nice of a man to treat you to a date / dinner, but be a lady. Thank him and be appreciative but do not be a female dog about it.
Entitlement, is always an ugly trait.
From my experience, men feel much more at ease to treat you well, and to shower you with nice things /experiences when you ask little of them. Let them step up and do the courting, and they usually will. You may be surprised at what they are willing to do as well.
I think @Tiziani and LadyScorp said it best.
It's a mix of how you were brought up and manners. It's NOT about entitlement.
It's a valued ideal for men.
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Posted by nikkistarLol that's cutePosted by LadyNeptuneI tried that with Johm, he gave me the silent treatment the rest of the night. Tried it again when we ordered pizza one time, he grabbed the phone from me when I was giving my debit card, and gave them his.Posted by nikkistarWe are in similar positions nikki. I also make more than my younger gem and he was very adamant about paying when we were first dating. Sometimes when he went to the bathroom I would sneak over and pay the check.Posted by TheLadyScorpioI 100% agree with this.
When a woman walks into a date, feeling entitled to a free meal, at times those same women feel entitled to things beyond a mere free meal as well.
For a man, it could be a red flag. Granted, it is most certainly nice of a man to treat you to a date / dinner, but be a lady. Thank him and be appreciative but do not be a female dog about it.
Entitlement, is always an ugly trait.
From my experience, men feel much more at ease to treat you well, and to shower you with nice things /experiences when you ask little of them. Let them step up and do the courting, and they usually will. You may be surprised at what they are willing to do as well.
My cancer is by far less financially secure. I gross just under 6 digits a year, and my Cancer makes 1/3 of what I do. However, I never try to emasculate him, because I know to do so, would be terrible for our relationship.
He often takes me out, and 9/10 times, he pays. I ask every time if he wants me to, but he won't let me pay. However, I also tailor what type of date we are having to be more respectful of his financial circumstances.
It's one of the main reasons why I adored him so much.
He drives me nuts. But the dude just makes me so feminine, its not funny. I don't cuss in front of him. lolclick to expand



Posted by ChrisIsKodakPosted by TeddyBearMDyou mad bro?
You bitches want 'Equal Rights'.... rightโ
Well, that comes with equal lefts too.
FUCK NO. A man should not be paying for dinner unless he is GUARANTEED entry into the vagina. Why am I paying for a woman to eat, just for her to turn around have some other guy pay for her meal tomorrow while she calls it "Dating Around".
Don't give me that "it's tradition" bullshit either. If you want tradition then fine, stay in the kitchen, don't speak unless asked to, and do laundry for the rest of your life. It's either ALL or NOTHING when it comes to dating norms and traditions with me.click to expand

Posted by EvoxxxscorpioPosted by TeenaLol ?โโ๏ธ I've gone out on dates always been 50 I can afford to pay on an expensive resto I love dining out but if we're not official ?NoPosted by EvoxxxscorpioDon't!Posted by Infinite8I do have manners but why should a guy pay for dinner?Posted by TheLadyScorpio
When a woman walks into a date, feeling entitled to a free meal, at times those same women feel entitled to things beyond a mere free meal as well.
For a man, it could be a red flag. Granted, it is most certainly nice of a man to treat you to a date / dinner, but be a lady. Thank him and be appreciative but do not be a female dog about it.
Entitlement, is always an ugly trait.
From my experience, men feel much more at ease to treat you well, and to shower you with nice things /experiences when you ask little of them. Let them step up and do the courting, and they usually will. You may be surprised at what they are willing to do as well.
I think @Tiziani and LadyScorp said it best.
It's a mix of how you were brought up and manners. It's NOT about entitlement.
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Posted by MiZLeoThis says a lot about you honey, and it's not flattering.
Also, it tells me if he is cheap or a loser with no money.


Posted by ChrisIsKodakI can't even with you right nowPosted by EnochtheWiseIm sorry I fucked up. My bad.Posted by ChrisIsKodakavi is also a dude...clues everywhere...lol.Posted by EnochtheWiseI had no idea. Idk to be honest, it's not even like you post girly stuff.Posted by ChrisIsKodakYeah, Enoch is a dude's name. What made you think otherwise?Posted by EnochtheWiseyou're a dude?
If I take a girl out, its usually something I initiated, planned out, etc., and I definitely think the man should always pay in instances like that. Its very odd to ask someone to pay for a meal, or anything, that was your idea.
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Posted by Infinite8I don't think I'll ever start something that way either.Posted by TeenaI don't know how it works either.... it was never really my thing. I'd rather have things flow organically. All of my relationships stemmed that way, none came from a dating process.Posted by EvoxxxscorpioPosted by TeenaLol ?โโ๏ธ I've gone out on dates always been 50 I can afford to pay on an expensive resto I love dining out but if we're not official ?NoPosted by EvoxxxscorpioDon't!Posted by Infinite8I do have manners but why should a guy pay for dinner?Posted by TheLadyScorpio
When a woman walks into a date, feeling entitled to a free meal, at times those same women feel entitled to things beyond a mere free meal as well.
For a man, it could be a red flag. Granted, it is most certainly nice of a man to treat you to a date / dinner, but be a lady. Thank him and be appreciative but do not be a female dog about it.
Entitlement, is always an ugly trait.
From my experience, men feel much more at ease to treat you well, and to shower you with nice things /experiences when you ask little of them. Let them step up and do the courting, and they usually will. You may be surprised at what they are willing to do as well.
I think @Tiziani and LadyScorp said it best.
It's a mix of how you were brought up and manners. It's NOT about entitlement.
Lol!! I dunno how the dating thing works anyway ?..so whatever works for you ๐
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Posted by EvoxxxscorpioYou have a terrible way of saying it though. lolPosted by poison_ivyLol this is what I'm trying to say.
I don't expect a man to pay for everything... However... when I pull my wallet out he gives me a look like... "I got this.." Every single TIM! I think a man respects a woman that doesn't rely on him for everything... but a good man is okay with spending on his lady.click to expand

Posted by Infinite8Posted by TeenaYou should try it, just to experience it...lol.Posted by Infinite8I don't think I'll ever start something that way either.Posted by TeenaI don't know how it works either.... it was never really my thing. I'd rather have things flow organically. All of my relationships stemmed that way, none came from a dating process.Posted by EvoxxxscorpioPosted by TeenaLol ?โโ๏ธ I've gone out on dates always been 50 I can afford to pay on an expensive resto I love dining out but if we're not official ?NoPosted by EvoxxxscorpioDon't!Posted by Infinite8I do have manners but why should a guy pay for dinner?Posted by TheLadyScorpio
When a woman walks into a date, feeling entitled to a free meal, at times those same women feel entitled to things beyond a mere free meal as well.
For a man, it could be a red flag. Granted, it is most certainly nice of a man to treat you to a date / dinner, but be a lady. Thank him and be appreciative but do not be a female dog about it.
Entitlement, is always an ugly trait.
From my experience, men feel much more at ease to treat you well, and to shower you with nice things /experiences when you ask little of them. Let them step up and do the courting, and they usually will. You may be surprised at what they are willing to do as well.
I think @Tiziani and LadyScorp said it best.
It's a mix of how you were brought up and manners. It's NOT about entitlement.
Lol!! I dunno how the dating thing works anyway ?..so whatever works for you ๐
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Posted by aquarius_beautyIt is. You both come across as gold diggers.Posted by MiZLeoIt's funny how much Leos and Aquas are alike. It's almost like we're each others halves..... ๐
I expect a guy to pay for the first date. Not for a free meal, but I'm old fashioned and want to be courted. Also, it tells me if he is cheap or a loser with no money.
That being said. I always bring enough for myself because one time in college I went on a date and the guy tried to pay with a check.... mmmm.. so I ended up having to pay. I've also had guys bitch at me about having to pay after we were done eating..... I still made him pay but dude was looking for a sugar mamma.
I will pay for a movie or something after we have gone on a few dates. However last time I did that the guy insisted on getting the popcorn and drinks. He basicly told me if he didn't he'd feel emasculated.click to expand

Posted by TeddyBearMDWho let your ratchet ass out?
You bitches want 'Equal Rights'.... rightโ
Well, that comes with equal lefts too.
FUCK NO. A man should not be paying for dinner unless he is GUARANTEED entry into the vagina. Why am I paying for a woman to eat, just for her to turn around have some other guy pay for her meal tomorrow while she calls it "Dating Around".
Don't give me that "it's tradition" bullshit either. If you want tradition then fine, stay in the kitchen, don't speak unless asked to, and do laundry for the rest of your life. It's either ALL or NOTHING when it comes to dating norms and traditions with me.

Posted by Neno2Posted by BlackburnPosted by Neno2Posted by nikkistarofc a man should always pay,thats a must here,i could not go somewhere and let the woman pay
I just watched a video last night, of a guy asking if men should always pay for dinner. I found it fascinating the amount of "yeas" I heard when he asked if men should always pay for dinner. I have never been one to think a man should pay, but it got me thinking. How many women actually think it is the man's responsibility to pay for everything regardless of the length of the relationship?
For me, I sided with the speaker. But that is me.
Here is the video in case some of you want to watch it.
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Why?
here its unthinkable for a woman to pay for the date?its a cultural thing,a unwritten rule
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Posted by ChrisIsKodakHe's Asian, those formulas are a piece of cake for him.Posted by nikkistarHe just don't want to pay for the extra drink she ordered. Over here doing the math in his head and trying to figure out the sales tax.Posted by EvoxxxscorpioYou have a terrible way of saying it though. lolPosted by poison_ivyLol this is what I'm trying to say.
I don't expect a man to pay for everything... However... when I pull my wallet out he gives me a look like... "I got this.." Every single TIM! I think a man respects a woman that doesn't rely on him for everything... but a good man is okay with spending on his lady.![]()
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Posted by EvoxxxscorpioThat's why you're my bro... great minds think alike. ๐Posted by poison_ivyLol this is what I'm trying to say.
I don't expect a man to pay for everything... However... when I pull my wallet out he gives me a look like... "I got this.." Every single TIM! I think a man respects a woman that doesn't rely on him for everything... but a good man is okay with spending on his lady.click to expand

Posted by ChrisIsKodakHe proved my point beautifully. Yet a good reason why women shouldn't always expect men to pay. Strings attached with some of these fuckboys.Posted by TeddyBearMDyou mad bro?
You bitches want 'Equal Rights'.... rightโ
Well, that comes with equal lefts too.
FUCK NO. A man should not be paying for dinner unless he is GUARANTEED entry into the vagina. Why am I paying for a woman to eat, just for her to turn around have some other guy pay for her meal tomorrow while she calls it "Dating Around".
Don't give me that "it's tradition" bullshit either. If you want tradition then fine, stay in the kitchen, don't speak unless asked to, and do laundry for the rest of your life. It's either ALL or NOTHING when it comes to dating norms and traditions with me.click to expand

Posted by nikkistarbwahahahah!! ๐Posted by ChrisIsKodakHe's Asian, those formulas are a piece of cake for him.Posted by nikkistarHe just don't want to pay for the extra drink she ordered. Over here doing the math in his head and trying to figure out the sales tax.Posted by EvoxxxscorpioYou have a terrible way of saying it though. lolPosted by poison_ivyLol this is what I'm trying to say.
I don't expect a man to pay for everything... However... when I pull my wallet out he gives me a look like... "I got this.." Every single TIM! I think a man respects a woman that doesn't rely on him for everything... but a good man is okay with spending on his lady.![]()
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Posted by HareMy gay bestie is dating this guy he's really serious about. They switch off on planing/paying for each date.
What if it's two guys? Does the bottom or the top pay?
Also...What if it's two women? Do they just run out of the restaurant and ride away real fast on their Harley without paying?

Posted by ChrisIsKodakI know. This is why I loled when I read this.Posted by rockyroadicecreamShe doesnt date she has FWBs.Posted by MiZLeoThis says a lot about you honey, and it's not flattering.
Also, it tells me if he is cheap or a loser with no money.
You're just as much of a loser as he is with this mindset. Stay away from dating you loser.
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Posted by TeddyBearMDYour paying for dinner and the pleasure of her company, during that dinner only. If you are expecting pussy go to a strip club and pay for a vip dance or go to backpage (although I think they got shut down).
You bitches want 'Equal Rights'.... rightโ
Well, that comes with equal lefts too.
FUCK NO. A man should not be paying for dinner unless he is GUARANTEED entry into the vagina. Why am I paying for a woman to eat, just for her to turn around have some other guy pay for her meal tomorrow while she calls it "Dating Around".
Don't give me that "it's tradition" bullshit either. If you want tradition then fine, stay in the kitchen, don't speak unless asked to, and do laundry for the rest of your life. It's either ALL or NOTHING when it comes to dating norms and traditions with me.
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For me, I sided with the speaker. But that is me.
Here is the video in case some of you want to watch it.