The Oscars 2021

So unpopular opinion, as a black woman, I find it pretty annoying how performative this Oscars feels. It is by far the most diverse showing ever, and perhaps I’m being a cynic, but it feels so fake to me. It’s like they opened the flood gates and now they have an abundance of black nominees. Which for the record I am not angry about, but it also feels very disingenuous, and perhaps that’s what rubs me the wrong way.

It's like a blaxploitation take on the Oscars, lol

Oh great 2 minutes in and we're already getting politics shoved down our throats 👍

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Oh great 2 minutes in and we're already getting politics shoved down our throats 👍

I don’t mind that, I mean everyone loves a celeb when they agree with their politics, but suddenly have an issue when they represent a side of politics they disagree with.

I just don’t like hypocrisy, and I don’t like performative action. I think a lot of the black actors and directors nominated deserve their nominations. There were a lot of great films with leading black men and women, but I also don’t like that it all comes off the back of Hollywood being exposed for not being as “liberal” as they like to appear.

Do you think there was ever a time when the oscars were not a performative trick?

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Oh great 2 minutes in and we're already getting politics shoved down our throats 👍

I don’t mind that, I mean everyone loves a celeb when they agree with their politics, but suddenly have an issue when they represent a side of politics they disagree with.

I just don’t like hypocrisy, and I don’t like performative action. I think a lot of the black actors and directors nominated deserve their nominations. There were a lot of great films with leading black men and women, but I also don’t like that it all comes off the back of Hollywood being exposed for not being as “liberal” as they like to appear.

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How about a hand for all the dedicated police officers who daily put their lives on the line patroling black neighbourhoods 👏

... rather than bashing a whole proffessional group on prime time.

I can't tell you the last time I cared about the Oscars. I became disinterested and disappointed once I felt it was all a fix of some sort.

The black films most worthy have already been snuffed as far as I am concerned and that can't be undone... Like how they're trying to redo baseball history.

I'm not much in touch with movies today but it's been a while since I've seen a black film worthy of acclaim as compared to some real heavy hitters from the past. That's why it feels disingenuous.

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Oh great 2 minutes in and we're already getting politics shoved down our throats 👍

I don’t mind that, I mean everyone loves a celeb when they agree with their politics, but suddenly have an issue when they represent a side of politics they disagree with.

I just don’t like hypocrisy, and I don’t like performative action. I think a lot of the black actors and directors nominated deserve their nominations. There were a lot of great films with leading black men and women, but I also don’t like that it all comes off the back of Hollywood being exposed for not being as “liberal” as they like to appear.

How about a hand for all the dedicated police officers who daily put their lives on the line patroling black neighbourhoods 👏

... rather than bashing a whole proffessional group on prime time.

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Meh, that’s a weak argument. The justice system is in part* the way it is, because officers allow bad apples to continue being bad apples, rather than turn on their own. The police force isn’t a fraternity, they’re suppose to put the safety and care of the community above some unspoken fraternity code. That’s what makes bad apples thrive and good ones go unnoticed.

Speaking on a noted issue in this country isn’t a bad thing, it’s only people with inherent prejudices towards POC communities that have an issue with the rebuke. How about less bad acting cops, and their wouldn’t be a need for such a public rebuke.

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I can't tell you the last time I cared about the Oscars. I became disinterested and disappointed once I felt it was all a fix of some sort.

The black films most worthy have already been snuffed as far as I am concerned and that can't be undone... Like how they're trying to redo baseball history.

I'm not much in touch with movies today but it's been a while since I've seen a black film worthy of acclaim as compared to some real heavy hitters from the past. That's why it feels disingenuous.

Oh there’s quite a few modern black films deserving of acclaim, just as their are the actors. I mean, I don’t like this argument because there sure are a shit ton of white films and actors who are mediocre yet had the red carpet LITERALLY rolled out for them.

Now, if only they did away with all the bs campaigning we could get somewhere.

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I can't tell you the last time I cared about the Oscars. I became disinterested and disappointed once I felt it was all a fix of some sort.

The black films most worthy have already been snuffed as far as I am concerned and that can't be undone... Like how they're trying to redo baseball history.

I'm not much in touch with movies today but it's been a while since I've seen a black film worthy of acclaim as compared to some real heavy hitters from the past. That's why it feels disingenuous.

Oh there’s quite a few modern black films deserving of acclaim, just as their are the actors. I mean, I don’t like this argument because there sure are a shit ton of white films and actors who are mediocre yet had the red carpet LITERALLY rolled out for them.

Now, if only they did away with all the bs campaigning we could get somewhere.

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My perspective is probably because our generational difference... as far as my opinion on acclaim or noteworthy black films.

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I can't tell you the last time I cared about the Oscars. I became disinterested and disappointed once I felt it was all a fix of some sort.

The black films most worthy have already been snuffed as far as I am concerned and that can't be undone... Like how they're trying to redo baseball history.

I'm not much in touch with movies today but it's been a while since I've seen a black film worthy of acclaim as compared to some real heavy hitters from the past. That's why it feels disingenuous.

Oh there’s quite a few modern black films deserving of acclaim, just as their are the actors. I mean, I don’t like this argument because there sure are a shit ton of white films and actors who are mediocre yet had the red carpet LITERALLY rolled out for them.

Now, if only they did away with all the bs campaigning we could get somewhere.

My perspective is probably because our generational difference... as far as my opinion on acclaim or noteworthy black films.

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Fair. Because I would hardly label any black film of the 70s or 80s worthy of any award. 90s maybe...but it’s a huge maybe...

But as far as I’m concerned, as long as it’s not a Tyler Perry flick or a white savior, slavery pick, I’m open to giving it a chance.

Maybe it feels fake because we, black people, had to once again complain about being shut out. Don’t appease us with pandering. Just do right when the time comes.

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Maybe it feels fake because we, black people, had to once again complain about being shut out. Don’t appease us with pandering. Just do right when the time comes.

Yes! That’s it, the pandering is absurd. Don’t get me wrong, I think Judas and The Black Messiah deserved its nom, Daniel Kaluuya deserved his win, I liked the nom for One Night in Miami. I think the black stories told for once were refreshing and different, before if a black actor was nominated it was because they played a convincing slave, and along came Brad Pitt as the kind hearted white man. I love that a Chinese female director won for Nomadland and that a Korean woman won for Minari...

But it’s too easy right? It’s like for starters, as usual, other minority groups profit after blacks pick up the rod and take on the fight for equality. All of this opportunity for asian and other brown people was not visible until blacks in the industry—and outside of it, began speaking up about the lack of diversity.

So that in itself, I’m going to need more POC to recognize how powerful it is for us to support one another, than be quick to side with racist rhetoric like “black people and the race card” tripe.

But I’m going off on a tangent—back to my point, it just feels too easy. Five years ago, you would have been hard pressed to get the academy to pay attention to black and brown films, independent flicks that had amazing showings at Sundance, etc...now suddenly, in the course of 2 years the flood gates have been opened!?

Yeah, it’s nothing but white guilt at it’s finest. It gets the job done, the industry will never be the same...but still, it’s maddening the performances folks do after intentionally shutting POC for years.

Posted by VenusAquarius

I can't tell you the last time I cared about the Oscars. I became disinterested and disappointed once I felt it was all a fix of some sort.

The black films most worthy have already been snuffed as far as I am concerned and that can't be undone... Like how they're trying to redo baseball history.

I'm not much in touch with movies today but it's been a while since I've seen a black film worthy of acclaim as compared to some real heavy hitters from the past. That's why it feels disingenuous.

BlacKkKlansman losing out to Green Book was a turning point for me. We saw the latter in the theater and I didn’t think much about it winning Best Picture until we saw the former on a streaming service. Holy shit. In retrospect, the white knighting was disgusting.

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I can't tell you the last time I cared about the Oscars. I became disinterested and disappointed once I felt it was all a fix of some sort.

The black films most worthy have already been snuffed as far as I am concerned and that can't be undone... Like how they're trying to redo baseball history.

I'm not much in touch with movies today but it's been a while since I've seen a black film worthy of acclaim as compared to some real heavy hitters from the past. That's why it feels disingenuous.

BlacKkKlansman losing out to Green Book was a turning point for me. We saw the latter in the theater and I didn’t think much about it winning Best Picture until we saw the former on a streaming service. Holy shit. In retrospect, the white knighting was disgusting.

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Hollywood’s speciality.

“Hey, we’re the Oscars, run by the White Jewish mafia, and we have Black friends too!”

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Maybe it feels fake because we, black people, had to once again complain about being shut out. Don’t appease us with pandering. Just do right when the time comes.

Yes! That’s it, the pandering is absurd. Don’t get me wrong, I think Judas and The Black Messiah deserved its nom, Daniel Kaluuya deserved his win, I liked the nom for One Night in Miami. I think the black stories told for once were refreshing and different, before if a black actor was nominated it was because they played a convincing slave, and along came Brad Pitt as the kind hearted white man. I love that a Chinese female director won for Nomadland and that a Korean woman won for Minari...

But it’s too easy right? It’s like for starters, as usual, other minority groups profit after blacks pick up the rod and take on the fight for equality. All of this opportunity for asian and other brown people was not visible until blacks in the industry—and outside of it, began speaking up about the lack of diversity.

So that in itself, I’m going to need more POC to recognize how powerful it is for us to support one another, than be quick to side with racist rhetoric like “black people and the race card” tripe.

But I’m going off on a tangent—back to my point, it just feels too easy. Five years ago, you would have been hard pressed to get the academy to pay attention to black and brown films, independent flicks that had amazing showings at Sundance, etc...now suddenly, in the course of 2 years the flood gates have been opened!?

Yeah, it’s nothing but white guilt at it’s finest. It gets the job done, the industry will never be the same...but still, it’s maddening the performances folks do after intentionally shutting POC for years.

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I feel the same way.

Its like nagging your boyfriend of 15 years to marry you and once he doesn’t, the victory doesn’t feel

Like a victory because you had to beg for it.

Why did he give it to you?

Cause he wanted to or to shut you up?

I changed my whole outlook on life when I stopped asking people to do anything. I just sit back and wait for anyone real to step up without being told.

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Oh great 2 minutes in and we're already getting politics shoved down our throats 👍

I mean everyone loves a celeb when they agree with their politics, but suddenly have an issue when they represent a side of politics they disagree with.

I just want to know what the Trump weirdos are watching these days. All they had was Scott Baio and Kirstie Alley.

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Why? What difference does that make? Just be glad they are gone. Besides democrats liked Scott Baio and Kirstie Alley too.

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Maybe it feels fake because we, black people, had to once again complain about being shut out. Don’t appease us with pandering. Just do right when the time comes.

Yes! That’s it, the pandering is absurd. Don’t get me wrong, I think Judas and The Black Messiah deserved its nom, Daniel Kaluuya deserved his win, I liked the nom for One Night in Miami. I think the black stories told for once were refreshing and different, before if a black actor was nominated it was because they played a convincing slave, and along came Brad Pitt as the kind hearted white man. I love that a Chinese female director won for Nomadland and that a Korean woman won for Minari...

But it’s too easy right? It’s like for starters, as usual, other minority groups profit after blacks pick up the rod and take on the fight for equality. All of this opportunity for asian and other brown people was not visible until blacks in the industry—and outside of it, began speaking up about the lack of diversity.

So that in itself, I’m going to need more POC to recognize how powerful it is for us to support one another, than be quick to side with racist rhetoric like “black people and the race card” tripe.

But I’m going off on a tangent—back to my point, it just feels too easy. Five years ago, you would have been hard pressed to get the academy to pay attention to black and brown films, independent flicks that had amazing showings at Sundance, etc...now suddenly, in the course of 2 years the flood gates have been opened!?

Yeah, it’s nothing but white guilt at it’s finest. It gets the job done, the industry will never be the same...but still, it’s maddening the performances folks do after intentionally shutting POC for years.

I feel the same way.

Its like nagging your boyfriend of 15 years to marry you and once he doesn’t, the victory doesn’t feel

Like a victory because you had to beg for it.

Why did he give it to you?

Cause he wanted to or to shut you up?

I changed my whole outlook on life when I stopped asking people to do anything. I just sit back and wait for anyone real to step up without being told.

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Yes!!! That is the best analogy, I am similar. I don’t want to force or beg for anyone to treat me fairly. Social justice and equality is always a worthy fight, so I’m not mad that Hollywood is showing more diversity. For someone like me that grew up more into films than music videos, or caring about sports or social media, it feels like the last frontier to finally create worthy spaces for POC. With music and sports, you could always find black people to look up to, in film it was only a sprinkle of the same ol faces.

So it’s great, really, I’m not upset. But actually, the more I think on it, what bothers me isn’t that we had to fight for this...it’s that it’s mostly being done after the George Floyd case and the protests that happened. Just like with all the other companies coming out and admonishing racism, all the books coming out teaching whites how to be “Anti-Racists,” it’s like, so we’ve been saying all of this for CENTURIES, and you all chose to gaslight us. Now you got one tape, one tape that shows things for what they are, and now everyone wants to put on a performance and act like they care, when y’all justified the hell out of the murder of Treyvon Martin, etc.

Spare me.

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Oh great 2 minutes in and we're already getting politics shoved down our throats 👍

I mean everyone loves a celeb when they agree with their politics, but suddenly have an issue when they represent a side of politics they disagree with.

I just want to know what the Trump weirdos are watching these days. All they had was Scott Baio and Kirstie Alley.

Why? What difference does that make? Just be glad they are gone. Besides democrats liked Scott Baio and Kirstie Alley too.

Yes, seriously. Trump is no longer in the position he was to be a problem any longer. Trumpers are getting vaccinated. Leftists are pissing me off right now. And no, I am not a Democrat or Republican.. I am an Independent who does not vote for a party, but on a person based on their merits/character or if they are the lesser of 2 evils.

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That’s a bit extreme. Trumpers are getting vaccinated and leftists are what...?

What’s the reasoning behind your annoyance in the “leftists?”

I know a lot of Trumpers who are avoiding the vaccine like the plague, as with any group, there’s always those who fall in because of the appeal of a rising movement, I doubt they were ever really Trumpers. The hardcore ones are not getting vaccinated lol.

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So unpopular opinion, as a black woman, I find it pretty annoying how performative this Oscars feels. It is by far the most diverse showing ever, and perhaps I’m being a cynic, but it feels so fake to me. It’s like they opened the flood gates and now they have an abundance of black nominees. Which for the record I am not angry about, but it also feels very disingenuous, and perhaps that’s what rubs me the wrong way.

You're right but people can't have it both ways. Complaining about the lack of racial diversity in past Oscars nominees and winners and then once non-whites are nominated, pointing out that those people were only selected to fill the growing demand for a diversity quota, rather than being chosen for excellent showmanship, innovation or creativity, as the honors are traditionally supposed to go.

Whatever. I only pay attention to the Oscars for the fashion, and even that's been a flop lately.

Boo, b i tc.h!

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Oh great 2 minutes in and we're already getting politics shoved down our throats 👍

I mean everyone loves a celeb when they agree with their politics, but suddenly have an issue when they represent a side of politics they disagree with.

I just want to know what the Trump weirdos are watching these days. All they had was Scott Baio and Kirstie Alley.

Why? What difference does that make? Just be glad they are gone. Besides democrats liked Scott Baio and Kirstie Alley too.

Yes, seriously. Trump is no longer in the position he was to be a problem any longer. Trumpers are getting vaccinated. Leftists are pissing me off right now. And no, I am not a Democrat or Republican.. I am an Independent who does not vote for a party, but on a person based on their merits/character or if they are the lesser of 2 evils.

That’s a bit extreme. Trumpers are getting vaccinated and leftists are what...?

What’s the reasoning behind your annoyance in the “leftists?”

I know a lot of Trumpers who are avoiding the vaccine like the plague, as with any group, there’s always those who fall in because of the appeal of a rising movement, I doubt they were ever really Trumpers. The hardcore ones are not getting vaccinated lol.

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Maybe people aren’t getting vaccinated, political leanings aside. I’ve heard the same reason from several people, ie that they are not prepared to be jabbed with an experimental, rushed through product whIch they have no confirmation is safe?

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I watch movies for what they are, and I don't need an award ceremony to tell me which movies are better than others.

For actors it’s a place where your work, your craft is recognized.

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Slumdog Millionaire and Shakespeare In Love are utter trash.

What was wrong with Slumdog Millionaire?!

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So unpopular opinion, as a black woman, I find it pretty annoying how performative this Oscars feels. It is by far the most diverse showing ever, and perhaps I’m being a cynic, but it feels so fake to me. It’s like they opened the flood gates and now they have an abundance of black nominees. Which for the record I am not angry about, but it also feels very disingenuous, and perhaps that’s what rubs me the wrong way.

You're right but people can't have it both ways. Complaining about the lack of racial diversity in past Oscars nominees and winners and then once non-whites are nominated, pointing out that those people were only selected to fill the growing demand for a diversity quota, rather than being chosen for excellent showmanship, innovation or creativity, as the honors are traditionally supposed to go.

Whatever. I only pay attention to the Oscars for the fashion, and even that's been a flop lately.

Boo, b i tc.h!

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I hear what you’re saying, but it’s not exactly my issue. I think most of the noms and winners were very deserving. My issue is with this coming off of an attempt by the Academy to save face. It’s all performative, whether those academy members deserve the accolades or not, it’s only happening because of the social justices protests of 2020, have prompted many companies and brands—that sat quite the last 6 years in the midst of police brutality claims—to suddenly become avid allies for the fight against racism. It shouldn’t have taken this to get better representation in Hollywood, and that’s where the distaste comes from. A perfect example of this is Tyler Perry walking the red carpet—hes made a career by maintaining a status outside of Hollywood. I can’t even say it had as much to do with Hollywood racism, as it did with Tyler Perry’s taste being very on par with low brow BET style flicks and the blaxplotiation genre. When has that ever converged with Hollywood and the Academy? More importantly, should it? I don’t think so. Obviously, anyone who is an academy member, which he is a part of the guild, can come to the award show. The Academy can’t lock him out, but his presence just screamed orchestration. It’s like they threw out invites to any, and every black and brown person they could think of just to prove a point...”we aren’t racist!” The issue is, the act of finally giving a platform for black and brown images, overnight, shows that the Academy indeed, did intentionally shut POC out. It took several bad PR campaigns and the world breaking out in simultaneous protests against police brutality for the Academy to act concerned for POC.

Anyone who scoffs and tries to dismiss the accomplishments of the black actors and films, were always going to be dismissive of their accomplishments.

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Oh great 2 minutes in and we're already getting politics shoved down our throats 👍

I mean everyone loves a celeb when they agree with their politics, but suddenly have an issue when they represent a side of politics they disagree with.

I just want to know what the Trump weirdos are watching these days. All they had was Scott Baio and Kirstie Alley.

Why? What difference does that make? Just be glad they are gone. Besides democrats liked Scott Baio and Kirstie Alley too.

Yes, seriously. Trump is no longer in the position he was to be a problem any longer. Trumpers are getting vaccinated. Leftists are pissing me off right now. And no, I am not a Democrat or Republican.. I am an Independent who does not vote for a party, but on a person based on their merits/character or if they are the lesser of 2 evils.

That’s a bit extreme. Trumpers are getting vaccinated and leftists are what...?

What’s the reasoning behind your annoyance in the “leftists?”

I know a lot of Trumpers who are avoiding the vaccine like the plague, as with any group, there’s always those who fall in because of the appeal of a rising movement, I doubt they were ever really Trumpers. The hardcore ones are not getting vaccinated lol.

I know of some hard core Trumpers that are getting vaccinated. Trump, himself, got vaccinated.

The silence is deafening by the leftists who supposedly support human rights on Iran getting elected by the UN to the Commission on Women’s Rights despite their own track record on human rights in their country.

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Yeah, but the right is equally silent when it comes to human rights issues. The thing that I hate about these sort of arguments, is it works to be disingenuous in painting the right like they’re some purveyor of human rights. The right doesn’t care about personal rights if it’s POC, Muslims, LGBTQ or the poor. If it deals with Israel and Iran, then of course the right wants to prop Israel up for its place as “God’s chosen people,” but it’s still to push their own agenda.

And of course Trump is vaccinated, he got vaccinated in January, long before he left the White House, and while he was still spewing contempt towards the science behind the vaccines.

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Slumdog Millionaire and Shakespeare In Love are utter trash.

What was wrong with Slumdog Millionaire?!

Boring, vacuous, style over substance, ridiculous fantasy ending to make it a feel good film. Danny Boyle has directed much better film TBF Sunshine was worse as it was really boring.

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I thought it was unlike any other Danny Boyle films, really off-brand for him, in a spontaneous, interesting way.

Not boring at all. Not a dull moment. You seem to have a peculiar unspoken agenda against the movie. It's more than just ordinary dislike.

Nothing personal though.

I’m looking forward to seeing Nomadland...love that woman’s acting.

Want to see The Father too...if ever the cinemas ever open up again!

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Oh great 2 minutes in and we're already getting politics shoved down our throats 👍

I mean everyone loves a celeb when they agree with their politics, but suddenly have an issue when they represent a side of politics they disagree with.

I just want to know what the Trump weirdos are watching these days. All they had was Scott Baio and Kirstie Alley.

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🤣 😂 🤣

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Maybe it feels fake because we, black people, had to once again complain about being shut out. Don’t appease us with pandering. Just do right when the time comes.

Yes! That’s it, the pandering is absurd. Don’t get me wrong, I think Judas and The Black Messiah deserved its nom, Daniel Kaluuya deserved his win, I liked the nom for One Night in Miami. I think the black stories told for once were refreshing and different, before if a black actor was nominated it was because they played a convincing slave, and along came Brad Pitt as the kind hearted white man. I love that a Chinese female director won for Nomadland and that a Korean woman won for Minari...

But it’s too easy right? It’s like for starters, as usual, other minority groups profit after blacks pick up the rod and take on the fight for equality. All of this opportunity for asian and other brown people was not visible until blacks in the industry—and outside of it, began speaking up about the lack of diversity.

So that in itself, I’m going to need more POC to recognize how powerful it is for us to support one another, than be quick to side with racist rhetoric like “black people and the race card” tripe.

But I’m going off on a tangent—back to my point, it just feels too easy. Five years ago, you would have been hard pressed to get the academy to pay attention to black and brown films, independent flicks that had amazing showings at Sundance, etc...now suddenly, in the course of 2 years the flood gates have been opened!?

Yeah, it’s nothing but white guilt at it’s finest. It gets the job done, the industry will never be the same...but still, it’s maddening the performances folks do after intentionally shutting POC for years.

I feel the same way.

Its like nagging your boyfriend of 15 years to marry you and once he doesn’t, the victory doesn’t feel

Like a victory because you had to beg for it.

Why did he give it to you?

Cause he wanted to or to shut you up?

I changed my whole outlook on life when I stopped asking people to do anything. I just sit back and wait for anyone real to step up without being told.

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Yes, ma’am!!!!