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Posted by PhoenixStorm
I like men who are dominant and will lead the relationship. I don’t like when a man expects me to lead the relationship. The only time I want to share dominance is in the bedroom. Otherwise a man that leads is a turn-on.
I didn't say you want a man to be submissive. My perspective was just to be equal in power. But im confused, it seems like you women want to be lead systematically. What's wrong with leading each in his own right. And not having to dominate the other or vice versa Hahah?
I want a man to make me laugh
I love a man to be dominant in the bedroom.
I also enjoy a little dom relationship wise. But not completly. I dont like to be controlled but I do like When a man takes control of certain situations.
I also like when a man isnt afraid to stand up to me.
I can be a little scattered brain so its helpful if I have a man around to guide me when I need it.
We are difficult creatures
I also enjoy a little dom relationship wise. But not completly. I dont like to be controlled but I do like When a man takes control of certain situations.
I also like when a man isnt afraid to stand up to me.
I can be a little scattered brain so its helpful if I have a man around to guide me when I need it.
We are difficult creatures
I think a good balance is needed. There had to be more to your break up then that. That type of relationship doesn’t get bad overnight.
She may have just wanted something different.
I’m a dominant female and I need a partner who is sweet but stands his ground. I am still respectful and let a man be a man though.
You just weren’t what she needed anymore for some reason, now there can be someone else who can appreciate you.
She may have just wanted something different.
I’m a dominant female and I need a partner who is sweet but stands his ground. I am still respectful and let a man be a man though.
You just weren’t what she needed anymore for some reason, now there can be someone else who can appreciate you.
i want a dominant man in and out of the bedroom, most of my relationships have been that way because of that attraction. I've only had longer term relationships with them over other types. i also do value respect and theres always a mutual understanding about each others feelings and safe words
but my bf baby talks with me and did the cute kissy thing even though hes the 'dominant" ones and then i got the subtle ' i hate you, i cant believe i just did that' look
but my bf baby talks with me and did the cute kissy thing even though hes the 'dominant" ones and then i got the subtle ' i hate you, i cant believe i just did that' look
What I *thought* I wanted at 25, is not what I *know* I want now, at 41. Growth? Maturity? Wisdom? Self Reflection? What a blessing!
Compatibility-Shared Interests-Long term Goals-Spirituality-Strengths(etc) need to be discussed and understood. Knowing a woman (who you have romantic interest in) desires a dominant man (or a laid back one) SHOULD BE ESTABLISHED in the beginning. Whatever the definition of those may mean to either party. Personally, I'm a very independent woman who has never cared for traditional roles. I take pride in having the ability and passion to take care of myself and my children. In relationships, I don't ask for anything tangible, whether money or gifts. Ever. It didn't matter to me. It was hard for my past bf's/ ex-hubby to handle that. Some men need to be needed. Others don't want to be needed, and then there are those men who want everything to be "equal"/divided.
I've been dating a man for a few months now. He's beautiful. He's opened my eyes to so much of what I do want. When we do activities together, he loves for me to decide what we're going to do most times. Which gives me somewhat of a leading role in that area. But, he has SHOWN me that he wants to take care of me in several ways. That's his way of leading. And, I'm okay with that, although it's not naturally "who I am". I would never want to hurt him. He's kind, gentle, passionate, affectionate, respectful, patient, giving, smart, intelligent, talented, dependable, considerate and more. So much more than ANY man I've ever loved. In fact, the love we share is unique to us both because it was built upon true friendship and respect.
When we love someone, we have to know/learn WHO they are, their love language, know our own love language, and how to compliment them/show value/appreciate him/her. If not, there will be frustration, a lack of appreciation and other unwanted surprises.
It's not so much, "what women want" as much as it is what the woman you're in a relationship *with* WANTS, NEEDS, EXPECTS and DEMONSTRATES. It ALL goes hand in hand.
Compatibility-Shared Interests-Long term Goals-Spirituality-Strengths(etc) need to be discussed and understood. Knowing a woman (who you have romantic interest in) desires a dominant man (or a laid back one) SHOULD BE ESTABLISHED in the beginning. Whatever the definition of those may mean to either party. Personally, I'm a very independent woman who has never cared for traditional roles. I take pride in having the ability and passion to take care of myself and my children. In relationships, I don't ask for anything tangible, whether money or gifts. Ever. It didn't matter to me. It was hard for my past bf's/ ex-hubby to handle that. Some men need to be needed. Others don't want to be needed, and then there are those men who want everything to be "equal"/divided.
I've been dating a man for a few months now. He's beautiful. He's opened my eyes to so much of what I do want. When we do activities together, he loves for me to decide what we're going to do most times. Which gives me somewhat of a leading role in that area. But, he has SHOWN me that he wants to take care of me in several ways. That's his way of leading. And, I'm okay with that, although it's not naturally "who I am". I would never want to hurt him. He's kind, gentle, passionate, affectionate, respectful, patient, giving, smart, intelligent, talented, dependable, considerate and more. So much more than ANY man I've ever loved. In fact, the love we share is unique to us both because it was built upon true friendship and respect.
When we love someone, we have to know/learn WHO they are, their love language, know our own love language, and how to compliment them/show value/appreciate him/her. If not, there will be frustration, a lack of appreciation and other unwanted surprises.
It's not so much, "what women want" as much as it is what the woman you're in a relationship *with* WANTS, NEEDS, EXPECTS and DEMONSTRATES. It ALL goes hand in hand.
Tbh I will follow my man, allow him to be the leader, IF I deem him as someone who leads correctly in the way I see fit.
I need a man that understands that my opinions are just as important in the matter, and knows how to lead when he does decide to lead.
Submission is allowing the other person to be dominant. There is power that a submissive person holds.
My man needs to be strong or else ill walk right over him. Stand up to me. Be levelheaded as I can be all over the place sometimes
I need a man that understands that my opinions are just as important in the matter, and knows how to lead when he does decide to lead.
Submission is allowing the other person to be dominant. There is power that a submissive person holds.
My man needs to be strong or else ill walk right over him. Stand up to me. Be levelheaded as I can be all over the place sometimes
I like a man to dominate, but yet I want to be partners.
That sounds confusing when I read it 😂 in practice really when the man could not lead, I had to take over. What I really think is best - is a partnership.
That sounds confusing when I read it 😂 in practice really when the man could not lead, I had to take over. What I really think is best - is a partnership.
It's very easy for modern men to believe in equality, but listen too me clearly, women never feel equal. They spend their lives knowing they are not equal. It's not possible for a modern male to understand because males are raised with cartoons and lies recitated by people with agendas and older beta males. Modern males really believe in an ideal world where a woman and a male can be equal and achieve equally. But women don't. They know and experience the truth innately.
Men are gullible. A man can be given a gun and will believe that it is a toy and war is a game, but women never lose sight of the true violence of this world.
Society has been trying really hard to push this equality agenda, maybe some find it reasonable to impose a lie for the purpose of betterment, but they don't really see the negative impact and schizophrenia it creates. Modern men, naive and child-eyed spend most of their lives believing in equality whereas women spend their lives lamenting the fact that these men don't use their adavantages as they should and spend too much time being kitties.
This is the only reason why incels exist nowadays. Young men raised with cartoon-like fake ideals about the world. That also explains all the trannies and people confused about genders.
Yes women want to be handled. It took me far too long to understand because gen-Xers are already part of the manipulated generations.
I've been re-educating myself recently and experimenting with this topic, and it's to the point where I've had women literally thank me for behaving like -what I was raised to consider as- a douchebag, for an extended period of time and them being aroused by it.
Yet some women perpetuate the lie of equality and some modern female mutants probably come to believe it too.
The best recent example was the female world cup, when the winner females were crying that people didn't care as much as during the male competition. Or that they didn't get the same amount of money. Some people have come to believe that this is the result of some mythological injustice, when it's just the result of people not caring, because why should they?
Gender inequality should be understood and accepted.
I'm not talking about BDSM or any of that shit, Most of these thngs are ridiculous cuck fantasies.
I'm not talking about oppressing the females and putting veils on them like the muslims do. This is the betaest thing ever. Hiding and fearing the women is pretty much the same as putting the pussy on a pedestal and these guys are top cucked. The female should be unveiled for everyone to see. And treated equally but not more fairly.
I'm tired so I'ma just call it a wrap
Hi new bestfriend!
I think the word "dominance" has varying definitions depending on the woman that is speaking.
I often think that women interchange the word strong, with the word dominance for everything. What it boils down to is a women typically wants a mate that she feels feminine with. Much like how many man will take into account how a woman makes them feel as man.
Strength/Dominance isn't just brute or physical strength. It is the feeling that your partner can make you sit up and listen. It can be that you feel like a priority. It can be that the man is protective. It's all relative, to say the least. But generally speaking, it is one of those forms.
For instance, my fiance is more often than not, makes sure I am taken care of in a gentle way. More often than not, he never says no to me and I get my way 99% of the time. However that 1% , he is immovable and doesnt care if it hurts my feelings for saying no. That is where his dominance lies with me.
Though we women say we want equality, true equality doesn't really exist. We want it in some terms, but not always when it comes to romance. Most of us want a partner that has the ability to make us sit up taller. Not a doormat. Most of us dont respect a partner we can run all over.
I think the word "dominance" has varying definitions depending on the woman that is speaking.
I often think that women interchange the word strong, with the word dominance for everything. What it boils down to is a women typically wants a mate that she feels feminine with. Much like how many man will take into account how a woman makes them feel as man.
Strength/Dominance isn't just brute or physical strength. It is the feeling that your partner can make you sit up and listen. It can be that you feel like a priority. It can be that the man is protective. It's all relative, to say the least. But generally speaking, it is one of those forms.
For instance, my fiance is more often than not, makes sure I am taken care of in a gentle way. More often than not, he never says no to me and I get my way 99% of the time. However that 1% , he is immovable and doesnt care if it hurts my feelings for saying no. That is where his dominance lies with me.
Though we women say we want equality, true equality doesn't really exist. We want it in some terms, but not always when it comes to romance. Most of us want a partner that has the ability to make us sit up taller. Not a doormat. Most of us dont respect a partner we can run all over.
Posted by ImpulsvPosted by Sunsetvirgo
Tbh I will follow my man, allow him to be the leader, IF I deem him as someone who leads correctly in the way I see fit.
I need a man that understands that my opinions are just as important in the matter, and knows how to lead when he does decide to lead.
Submission is allowing the other person to be dominant. There is power that a submissive person holds.
My man needs to be strong or else ill walk right over him. Stand up to me. Be levelheaded as I can be all over the place sometimes
What is the power that a submissive holds?click to expand
A true dominant knows that they can only be a dominant with someone who is okay with being submissive. If a submissive one day decided to be dominant, they would take that power away.
In other words, the submissive holds the key to the dominance in the other person.
Posted by nikkistar
Hi new bestfriend!
I think the word "dominance" has varying definitions depending on the woman that is speaking.
I often think that women interchange the word strong, with the word dominance for everything. What it boils down to is a women typically wants a mate that she feels feminine with. Much like how many man will take into account how a woman makes them feel as man.
Strength/Dominance isn't just brute or physical strength. It is the feeling that your partner can make you sit up and listen. It can be that you feel like a priority. It can be that the man is protective. It's all relative, to say the least. But generally speaking, it is one of those forms.
For instance, my fiance is more often than not, makes sure I am taken care of in a gentle way. More often than not, he never says no to me and I get my way 99% of the time. However that 1% , he is immovable and doesnt care if it hurts my feelings for saying no. That is where his dominance lies with me.
Though we women say we want equality, true equality doesn't really exist. We want it in some terms, but not always when it comes to romance. Most of us want a partner that has the ability to make us sit up taller. Not a doormat. Most of us dont respect a partner we can run all over.
There are some good inputs on here. Thanks to everyone. But this one is probably the clearest and wisest.
I think it's a human thing to not want a doormat. I think men as well as women would discard someone who is too dedicated and just that, a doormat in some form.
Now would you say equality doesn't really exist because of natural instincts? Social conditioning? Physical strength? Seems like a subconscious thing, an unspoken truth that is often stereotyped via the alpha male cliché haha.
Posted by hydorah
It's very easy for modern men to believe in equality, but listen too me clearly, women never feel equal. They spend their lives knowing they are not equal. It's not possible for a modern male to understand because males are raised with cartoons and lies recitated by people with agendas and older beta males. Modern males really believe in an ideal world where a woman and a male can be equal and achieve equally. But women don't. They know and experience the truth innately.
Men are gullible. A man can be given a gun and will believe that it is a toy and war is a game, but women never lose sight of the true violence of this world.
Society has been trying really hard to push this equality agenda, maybe some find it reasonable to impose a lie for the purpose of betterment, but they don't really see the negative impact and schizophrenia it creates. Modern men, naive and child-eyed spend most of their lives believing in equality whereas women spend their lives lamenting the fact that these men don't use their adavantages as they should and spend too much time being kitties.
This is the only reason why incels exist nowadays. Young men raised with cartoon-like fake ideals about the world. That also explains all the trannies and people confused about genders.
Yes women want to be handled. It took me far too long to understand because gen-Xers are already part of the manipulated generations.
I've been re-educating myself recently and experimenting with this topic, and it's to the point where I've had women literally thank me for behaving like -what I was raised to consider as- a douchebag, for an extended period of time and them being aroused by it.
Yet some women perpetuate the lie of equality and some modern female mutants probably come to believe it too.
The best recent example was the female world cup, when the winner females were crying that people didn't care as much as during the male competition. Or that they didn't get the same amount of money. Some people have come to believe that this is the result of some mythological injustice, when it's just the result of people not caring, because why should they?
Gender inequality should be understood and accepted.
I'm not talking about BDSM or any of that shit, Most of these thngs are ridiculous cuck fantasies.
I'm not talking about oppressing the females and putting veils on them like the muslims do. This is the betaest thing ever. Hiding and fearing the women is pretty much the same as putting the pussy on a pedestal and these guys are top cucked. The female should be unveiled for everyone to see. And treated equally but not more fairly.
I'm tired so I'ma just call it a wrap
Thats kind of radical but I guess there can be some truth in what you're saying.
I guess women deserve to have the same rights and equal pay for equal work, and not to be considered like an inferior "race" and be put down on a daily basis. But there is a gender difference.
What I'm trying to understand here is why is that. But like I said it seems to be just a fact and that's it haha
Posted by ParisianLeoPosted by MyStarsShine
I want a man to make me laugh
Hahah what happens when that's done?click to expand
Dancing? 💃🏼
I'd prefer to be with a guy who is quietly confident and strong....not one that talks about "being dominant". That to me reeks of insecurity. Like my Scorpio sister Nikki, I don't want a doormat, or a guy that is expecting me to be compliant, but a man that is safe enough in himself to be a grown up man...
The submissive and dominant stuff makes me laugh, all human beings have those characteristics in them, like yin and yang, light and dark, Venus and Mars. We are neither one or the other...
I'd be more interested in the psychology behind why someone feels the need to dominate or submit, but that's just me and my Scorpio detective mind 🤓
Posted by alexscariesPosted by ParisianLeoPosted by nikkistar
Hi new bestfriend!
I think the word "dominance" has varying definitions depending on the woman that is speaking.
I often think that women interchange the word strong, with the word dominance for everything. What it boils down to is a women typically wants a mate that she feels feminine with. Much like how many man will take into account how a woman makes them feel as man.
Strength/Dominance isn't just brute or physical strength. It is the feeling that your partner can make you sit up and listen. It can be that you feel like a priority. It can be that the man is protective. It's all relative, to say the least. But generally speaking, it is one of those forms.
For instance, my fiance is more often than not, makes sure I am taken care of in a gentle way. More often than not, he never says no to me and I get my way 99% of the time. However that 1% , he is immovable and doesnt care if it hurts my feelings for saying no. That is where his dominance lies with me.
Though we women say we want equality, true equality doesn't really exist. We want it in some terms, but not always when it comes to romance. Most of us want a partner that has the ability to make us sit up taller. Not a doormat. Most of us dont respect a partner we can run all over.
There are some good inputs on here. Thanks to everyone. But this one is probably the clearest and wisest.
I think it's a human thing to not want a doormat. I think men as well as women would discard someone who is too dedicated and just that, a doormat in some form.
Now would you say equality doesn't really exist because of natural instincts? Social conditioning? Physical strength? Seems like a subconscious thing, an unspoken truth that is often stereotyped via the alpha male cliché haha.
It's down to the situation despite what people think everyone is capable of being submissive and dominant.click to expand
They are, if they're prepared to let go of control and fear...
Posted by Antiphates
I don't think there are true sub/dom relationships out there for the long run. It might be the case for isolated aspects of a relationship but not the overall thing. That one will become a balance of equality over time or eventually fail.
The problem I have with the whole sub/dom thing is that you never really can sure who is the dom and who is the sub because whenever the "dom" acts like the "dom" and gets away with it is only because "sub" allows it, which in turn would make the "sub" the "dom" due to having a stronger, albeit hidden, control over the situation.
I like your reasoning about sharing dominance. It's pretty much what I had in mind.
But I can't agree completely with your last sentence. Maybe women can "act" submissive and all. But for men it's kind of different. Most men need validation from women so they can indeed fall for this. But I doubt men can "choose" to be submissive because that's not what we're told we should be.
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by ParisianLeoPosted by MyStarsShine
I want a man to make me laugh
Hahah what happens when that's done?
Dancing? 💃🏼
I'd prefer to be with a guy who is quietly confident and strong....not one that talks about "being dominant". That to me reeks of insecurity. Like my Scorpio sister Nikki, I don't want a doormat, or a guy that is expecting me to be compliant, but a man that is safe enough in himself to be a grown up man...
The submissive and dominant stuff makes me laugh, all human beings have those characteristics in them, like yin and yang, light and dark, Venus and Mars. We are neither one or the other...click to expand
Makes sense.
In France we have a saying (that comes from a McCain fries commercial) "those who speak the most eat them the least". Meaning that making unsolicited claims that you are anything means you are not really walking the walk.
Posted by peaceandtranquility_96
I like that about you. My boyfriend is the same way : )! He told me that from the get go. Honestly, I'm a pretty submissive person, so it was weird for me at first. He's kind of odd because his sun is in Scorpio (he can be strong and dominant in some ways), and his moon is in libra ( he likes to be sweet and submissive in other ways). Yes, I think dominance is attractive, but I more so want respect, love, and understanding in my relationship : )! I find that his way of doing things works perfectly for me. He even told me he will not talk things out with me if I yell or am not ready to talk. He'll give me the silent treatment until I settle down (it's a scorp thing I guess). He will not let me disrespect him in any way shape or form vice versa. That does not fly with him. So, I've had to learn how to be his equal. We talk things out normally and we're a team. There's sometimes I buy groceries. There's sometimes he buys groceries. I think you can still be "manly" while being the woman's equal. He LOVES to pay for me and take me out on dates. It makes him feel like he's taking care of me and I love that < 3!
As far as in the bedroom, I like dominance
You like that about who? Not sure who you are replying to....
Posted by ParisianLeoPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ParisianLeoPosted by MyStarsShine
I want a man to make me laugh
Hahah what happens when that's done?
Dancing? 💃🏼
I'd prefer to be with a guy who is quietly confident and strong....not one that talks about "being dominant". That to me reeks of insecurity. Like my Scorpio sister Nikki, I don't want a doormat, or a guy that is expecting me to be compliant, but a man that is safe enough in himself to be a grown up man...
The submissive and dominant stuff makes me laugh, all human beings have those characteristics in them, like yin and yang, light and dark, Venus and Mars. We are neither one or the other...
Makes sense.
In France we have a saying (that comes from a McCain fries commercial) "those who speak the most eat them the least". Meaning that making unsolicited claims that you are anything means you are not really walking the walk.click to expand
True
We're not anything, but everything....
Posted by Timon
I haven't read all the posts in the thread so maybe you already answered but I'm confused of what she wanted. Did she want you to make all decisions?
You can treat someone as an equal and still be dominant and manly. One thing doesn't rule out the other.
Not every decision but she did want me to take charge of some big picture life goals that were too complex for me to move quickly with or go forward with without taking her into account. And maybe I took her too much into consideration and should have gone forward more.
But I guess she did want a better balance between being the manly figure and keeping a balance in the relationship. I think for us decent men it's tough to strike a balance between the 2. You don't want to be an inconsiderate douchebag and don't want to be too soft either.
And Women want attention and care too!
Posted by ParisianLeoPosted by nikkistar
Hi new bestfriend!
I think the word "dominance" has varying definitions depending on the woman that is speaking.
I often think that women interchange the word strong, with the word dominance for everything. What it boils down to is a women typically wants a mate that she feels feminine with. Much like how many man will take into account how a woman makes them feel as man.
Strength/Dominance isn't just brute or physical strength. It is the feeling that your partner can make you sit up and listen. It can be that you feel like a priority. It can be that the man is protective. It's all relative, to say the least. But generally speaking, it is one of those forms.
For instance, my fiance is more often than not, makes sure I am taken care of in a gentle way. More often than not, he never says no to me and I get my way 99% of the time. However that 1% , he is immovable and doesnt care if it hurts my feelings for saying no. That is where his dominance lies with me.
Though we women say we want equality, true equality doesn't really exist. We want it in some terms, but not always when it comes to romance. Most of us want a partner that has the ability to make us sit up taller. Not a doormat. Most of us dont respect a partner we can run all over.
There are some good inputs on here. Thanks to everyone. But this one is probably the clearest and wisest.
I think it's a human thing to not want a doormat. I think men as well as women would discard someone who is too dedicated and just that, a doormat in some form.
Now would you say equality doesn't really exist because of natural instincts? Social conditioning? Physical strength? Seems like a subconscious thing, an unspoken truth that is often stereotyped via the alpha male cliché haha.click to expand
True equality cannot exist because men and women were not made equally the same. Women can be as strong next to a man, and can often times be stronger than a man when it comes to social parts. Like income, intelligence, or within social constructs. But we are suppose to be physically not as strong as men, though there are exceptions to that. Just as men cannot make a baby within their bodies.
Posted by ParisianLeo
I guess women deserve to have the same rights and equal pay for equal work, and not to be considered like an inferior "race" and be put down on a daily basis. But there is a gender difference.
I tend to be a libertarian and am for absolute equality. In fact I would accept that women be trated a little bit more fairly because real equality would be too brutal.
But what's going on in the EU and more particularly france is worrying, politicians are creating priviledges for women against men.
It started with parity in politics where they now want to have at least 50% of women in every committee. There tends traditionally to be more male politicians because males are more aggressive and perform better, physically and intellectually. With this measure they are effectively putting people in charge not based on their merits but based on priviledge( gender). And it's going against natural selection.
Then there is the problem of "equal pay". France has put up a law to punish companies if females are paid less than males statistically speaking. But most of the pay inequality comes from women's natality breaks and also the fact that men are better performing and more aggressive and driven.
So they are in fact forcing companies to discriminate against men because that becomes the only way women can have a statistical equal pay. By paying them more for equal merits.
Now there is also a bunch of salty old women campaigning with the help of the media because they want to have a special status of "femicide" included in law, which would institute the fact that men and women be treated unfairly wrt to the law. Which should logically be repelled by constution, but given the current climate I don't exclude anything from the bunch of clowns leading your country rn. There are already enough laws to punish killers, wether they kill women or other men.
All this will eventually result in a contrary reaction and the advent of super fascists in europe. Maybe not in western europe which is more complacent and have their natural instincts subjugated with pornography, but more probably in the east.
Posted by ParisianLeoPosted by Timon
I haven't read all the posts in the thread so maybe you already answered but I'm confused of what she wanted. Did she want you to make all decisions?
You can treat someone as an equal and still be dominant and manly. One thing doesn't rule out the other.
Not every decision but she did want me to take charge of some big picture life goals that were too complex for me to move quickly with or go forward with without taking her into account. And maybe I took her too much into consideration and should have gone forward more.
But I guess she did want a better balance between being the manly figure and keeping a balance in the relationship. I think for us decent men it's tough to strike a balance between the 2. You don't want to be an inconsiderate douchebag and don't want to be too soft either.
And Women want attention and care too!click to expand
First of all, why are you referring to yourself as "decent"? Why are you talking about yourself in such a derogatory sense?
Your ex and you were not compatible. That is all. That doesn't mean you failed as a man. I hate when women emasculate men in this fashion, just because they lack whatever trait they think their male counterpart is suppose to have in order to be "dominant". This happens with women as well. It annoys me, that instead of the other party just admitting that what they need from the partner is lacking for themselves, they would rather make their partner feel less than worthy.
Just because you lacked whatever trait she requires from a partner, doesn't mean you are less than a man. You are man enough for many other women, that will appreciate that you want their input when it comes to relationships decision making. Quite honestly, I would hate a partner that forced his "will" on me when it comes to that. That is not strength to me. That is misogyny to me.
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by alexscariesPosted by ParisianLeoPosted by Antiphates
I don't think there are true sub/dom relationships out there for the long run. It might be the case for isolated aspects of a relationship but not the overall thing. That one will become a balance of equality over time or eventually fail.
The problem I have with the whole sub/dom thing is that you never really can sure who is the dom and who is the sub because whenever the "dom" acts like the "dom" and gets away with it is only because "sub" allows it, which in turn would make the "sub" the "dom" due to having a stronger, albeit hidden, control over the situation.
I like your reasoning about sharing dominance. It's pretty much what I had in mind.
But I can't agree completely with your last sentence. Maybe women can "act" submissive and all. But for men it's kind of different. Most men need validation from women so they can indeed fall for this. But I doubt men can "choose" to be submissive because that's not what we're told we should be.
How can women be dominant? Some people live outside out of societal conventions. The term is Ubermensch.
Meaning...a person with great powers and abilities
ie either gender
It’s actually within societal conventions for women to be the dominant force, but it’s not talked about. Just visit Spain, Italy, Greece to see how the women dominate the men. I’m
not saying I agree with it but the matriarch is well and truly alive and kicking and always was.click to expand
Same for Asian countries too and a lot more countries. They are the secret dominatrix ahahaha
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by alexscariesPosted by ParisianLeoPosted by Antiphates
I don't think there are true sub/dom relationships out there for the long run. It might be the case for isolated aspects of a relationship but not the overall thing. That one will become a balance of equality over time or eventually fail.
The problem I have with the whole sub/dom thing is that you never really can sure who is the dom and who is the sub because whenever the "dom" acts like the "dom" and gets away with it is only because "sub" allows it, which in turn would make the "sub" the "dom" due to having a stronger, albeit hidden, control over the situation.
I like your reasoning about sharing dominance. It's pretty much what I had in mind.
But I can't agree completely with your last sentence. Maybe women can "act" submissive and all. But for men it's kind of different. Most men need validation from women so they can indeed fall for this. But I doubt men can "choose" to be submissive because that's not what we're told we should be.
How can women be dominant? Some people live outside out of societal conventions. The term is Ubermensch.
Meaning...a person with great powers and abilities
ie either gender
It’s actually within societal conventions for women to be the dominant force, but it’s not talked about. Just visit Spain, Italy, Greece to see how the women dominate the men. I’m
not saying I agree with it but the matriarch is well and truly alive and kicking and always was.click to expand
Same for Asian countries too and a lot more countries. They are the secret dominatrix ahahaha
Tell em to wash the dishes to see how "traditional" are they 😂
Most women be like
"I want a dominant man" "i want the man to be in charge/make decisions/lead the relationship"
In English: "I'm lazy af and something of a starfish."
Of course you want a "dominant" man. 🙄
"I want a dominant man" "i want the man to be in charge/make decisions/lead the relationship"
In English: "I'm lazy af and something of a starfish."
Of course you want a "dominant" man. 🙄
Posted by ParisianLeoPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by alexscariesPosted by ParisianLeoPosted by Antiphates
I don't think there are true sub/dom relationships out there for the long run. It might be the case for isolated aspects of a relationship but not the overall thing. That one will become a balance of equality over time or eventually fail.
The problem I have with the whole sub/dom thing is that you never really can sure who is the dom and who is the sub because whenever the "dom" acts like the "dom" and gets away with it is only because "sub" allows it, which in turn would make the "sub" the "dom" due to having a stronger, albeit hidden, control over the situation.
I like your reasoning about sharing dominance. It's pretty much what I had in mind.
But I can't agree completely with your last sentence. Maybe women can "act" submissive and all. But for men it's kind of different. Most men need validation from women so they can indeed fall for this. But I doubt men can "choose" to be submissive because that's not what we're told we should be.
How can women be dominant? Some people live outside out of societal conventions. The term is Ubermensch.
Meaning...a person with great powers and abilities
ie either gender
It’s actually within societal conventions for women to be the dominant force, but it’s not talked about. Just visit Spain, Italy, Greece to see how the women dominate the men. I’m
not saying I agree with it but the matriarch is well and truly alive and kicking and always was.
Same for Asian countries too and a lot more countries. They are the secret dominatrix ahahahaclick to expand
One of life’s best kept secrets lol
My seemingly submissive mother said to me “you have to let men think they’re in control, when they’re not”
Why? Lol 🙄
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by ParisianLeoPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by alexscariesPosted by ParisianLeoPosted by Antiphates
I don't think there are true sub/dom relationships out there for the long run. It might be the case for isolated aspects of a relationship but not the overall thing. That one will become a balance of equality over time or eventually fail.
The problem I have with the whole sub/dom thing is that you never really can sure who is the dom and who is the sub because whenever the "dom" acts like the "dom" and gets away with it is only because "sub" allows it, which in turn would make the "sub" the "dom" due to having a stronger, albeit hidden, control over the situation.
I like your reasoning about sharing dominance. It's pretty much what I had in mind.
But I can't agree completely with your last sentence. Maybe women can "act" submissive and all. But for men it's kind of different. Most men need validation from women so they can indeed fall for this. But I doubt men can "choose" to be submissive because that's not what we're told we should be.
How can women be dominant? Some people live outside out of societal conventions. The term is Ubermensch.
Meaning...a person with great powers and abilities
ie either gender
It’s actually within societal conventions for women to be the dominant force, but it’s not talked about. Just visit Spain, Italy, Greece to see how the women dominate the men. I’m
not saying I agree with it but the matriarch is well and truly alive and kicking and always was.
Same for Asian countries too and a lot more countries. They are the secret dominatrix ahahaha
One of life’s best kept secrets lol
My seemingly submissive mother said to me “you have to let men think they’re in control, when they’re not”
Why? Lol 🙄click to expand
That's the sort of childish game I'm not trying to play in my life. But then again, different era, which required the world to be at a balance
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by ParisianLeoPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by alexscariesPosted by ParisianLeoPosted by Antiphates
I don't think there are true sub/dom relationships out there for the long run. It might be the case for isolated aspects of a relationship but not the overall thing. That one will become a balance of equality over time or eventually fail.
The problem I have with the whole sub/dom thing is that you never really can sure who is the dom and who is the sub because whenever the "dom" acts like the "dom" and gets away with it is only because "sub" allows it, which in turn would make the "sub" the "dom" due to having a stronger, albeit hidden, control over the situation.
I like your reasoning about sharing dominance. It's pretty much what I had in mind.
But I can't agree completely with your last sentence. Maybe women can "act" submissive and all. But for men it's kind of different. Most men need validation from women so they can indeed fall for this. But I doubt men can "choose" to be submissive because that's not what we're told we should be.
How can women be dominant? Some people live outside out of societal conventions. The term is Ubermensch.
Meaning...a person with great powers and abilities
ie either gender
It’s actually within societal conventions for women to be the dominant force, but it’s not talked about. Just visit Spain, Italy, Greece to see how the women dominate the men. I’m
not saying I agree with it but the matriarch is well and truly alive and kicking and always was.
Same for Asian countries too and a lot more countries. They are the secret dominatrix ahahaha
One of life’s best kept secrets lol
My seemingly submissive mother said to me “you have to let men think they’re in control, when they’re not”
Why? Lol 🙄click to expand
That's the sort of childish game I'm not trying to play in my life. But then again, different era, which required the world to be at a balance
Posted by ParisianLeoPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ParisianLeoPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by alexscariesPosted by ParisianLeoPosted by Antiphates
I don't think there are true sub/dom relationships out there for the long run. It might be the case for isolated aspects of a relationship but not the overall thing. That one will become a balance of equality over time or eventually fail.
The problem I have with the whole sub/dom thing is that you never really can sure who is the dom and who is the sub because whenever the "dom" acts like the "dom" and gets away with it is only because "sub" allows it, which in turn would make the "sub" the "dom" due to having a stronger, albeit hidden, control over the situation.
I like your reasoning about sharing dominance. It's pretty much what I had in mind.
But I can't agree completely with your last sentence. Maybe women can "act" submissive and all. But for men it's kind of different. Most men need validation from women so they can indeed fall for this. But I doubt men can "choose" to be submissive because that's not what we're told we should be.
How can women be dominant? Some people live outside out of societal conventions. The term is Ubermensch.
Meaning...a person with great powers and abilities
ie either gender
It’s actually within societal conventions for women to be the dominant force, but it’s not talked about. Just visit Spain, Italy, Greece to see how the women dominate the men. I’m
not saying I agree with it but the matriarch is well and truly alive and kicking and always was.
Same for Asian countries too and a lot more countries. They are the secret dominatrix ahahaha
One of life’s best kept secrets lol
My seemingly submissive mother said to me “you have to let men think they’re in control, when they’re not”
Why? Lol 🙄
That's the sort of childish game I'm not trying to play in my life. But then again, different era, which required the world to be at a balanceclick to expand
The irony was, dad was the more immature one, mum was a mature and stoic Capricorn, never lost it, grounded and responsible but still felt the need to acquiesce to dad, maybe she thought it’d make him feel more manly?
Posted by AerialView
Tell em to wash the dishes to see how "traditional" are they 😂
I like doing the dishes 😄 does that make me submissive? 😜
Posted by BumblebebePosted by ParisianLeoPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ParisianLeoPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by alexscariesPosted by ParisianLeoPosted by Antiphates
I don't think there are true sub/dom relationships out there for the long run. It might be the case for isolated aspects of a relationship but not the overall thing. That one will become a balance of equality over time or eventually fail.
The problem I have with the whole sub/dom thing is that you never really can sure who is the dom and who is the sub because whenever the "dom" acts like the "dom" and gets away with it is only because "sub" allows it, which in turn would make the "sub" the "dom" due to having a stronger, albeit hidden, control over the situation.
I like your reasoning about sharing dominance. It's pretty much what I had in mind.
But I can't agree completely with your last sentence. Maybe women can "act" submissive and all. But for men it's kind of different. Most men need validation from women so they can indeed fall for this. But I doubt men can "choose" to be submissive because that's not what we're told we should be.
How can women be dominant? Some people live outside out of societal conventions. The term is Ubermensch.
Meaning...a person with great powers and abilities
ie either gender
It’s actually within societal conventions for women to be the dominant force, but it’s not talked about. Just visit Spain, Italy, Greece to see how the women dominate the men. I’m
not saying I agree with it but the matriarch is well and truly alive and kicking and always was.
Same for Asian countries too and a lot more countries. They are the secret dominatrix ahahaha
One of life’s best kept secrets lol
My seemingly submissive mother said to me “you have to let men think they’re in control, when they’re not”
Why? Lol 🙄
That's the sort of childish game I'm not trying to play in my life. But then again, different era, which required the world to be at a balance
"Childish Game"?click to expand
I see it more as dishonest than childish.
Posted by alexscariesPosted by MyStarsShine
I'd be more interested in the psychology behind why someone feels the need to dominate or submit, but that's just me and my Scorpio detective mind 🤓
In the most simplistic terms because some people find it more comfortable.click to expand
And sometimes learned behaviour
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by enfant_terrible
Most women be like
"I want a dominant man" "i want the man to be in charge/make decisions/lead the relationship"
In English: "I'm lazy af and something of a starfish."
Of course you want a "dominant" man. 🙄
obviously! I am fine with being lazy.click to expand
Thank you
Posted by BumblebebePosted by MyStarsShinePosted by alexscariesPosted by MyStarsShine
I'd be more interested in the psychology behind why someone feels the need to dominate or submit, but that's just me and my Scorpio detective mind 🤓
In the most simplistic terms because some people find it more comfortable.
And sometimes learned behaviour
I feel this thread may have been a can of worms.
And to throw more fire to the flame...things like BDSM were once considered an aberration of the mind clinically.click to expand
Why do you think it’s a can of worms?
Posted by pisceswoman123Posted by AerialView
Tell em to wash the dishes to see how "traditional" are they 😂
I like doing the dishes 😄 does that make me submissive? 😜click to expand
You're a fair woman then 😄😄😄
But I know you are submissive 😄😄😄😜💕
Posted by alexscariesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by BumblebebePosted by MyStarsShinePosted by alexscariesPosted by MyStarsShine
I'd be more interested in the psychology behind why someone feels the need to dominate or submit, but that's just me and my Scorpio detective mind 🤓
In the most simplistic terms because some people find it more comfortable.
And sometimes learned behaviour
I feel this thread may have been a can of worms.
And to throw more fire to the flame...things like BDSM were once considered an aberration of the mind clinically.
Why do you think it’s a can of worms?
A can of whips?click to expand
A can of whipsnworms
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by enfant_terriblePosted by Black-MambaPosted by enfant_terrible
Most women be like
"I want a dominant man" "i want the man to be in charge/make decisions/lead the relationship"
In English: "I'm lazy af and something of a starfish."
Of course you want a "dominant" man. 🙄
obviously! I am fine with being lazy.
Thank you
The point is women like to be cared for, even if they can care for themselves. They need to know a man can hold his own
nobody wants to be with a child/baby, codependent partnerclick to expand
Nope that's not really what's discussed here.
But yeah I think I want a dominant woman.. so I can be physically/mentally lazy in my relationship and let her pull all the strings. Life of a starfish sounds sweet .
Also submissive = lack of imagination IME.
Posted by Sarapis
I've never met a woman yet who couldn't use a ball-gag every now and then.. take that for what its worth.
Posted by Sarapis
I've never met a woman yet who couldn't use a ball-gag every now and then.. take that for what its worth.
You’re probably just about to.......
Posted by SarapisPosted by nikkistarPosted by Sarapis
I've never met a woman yet who couldn't use a ball-gag every now and then.. take that for what its worth.
That heifer needed submitted into hamburger meat..click to expand
Look at you, being so dominant. lol
Posted by SarapisPosted by nikkistarPosted by SarapisPosted by nikkistarPosted by Sarapis
I've never met a woman yet who couldn't use a ball-gag every now and then.. take that for what its worth.
That heifer needed submitted into hamburger meat..
Look at you, being so dominant. lol
Are we going to need a ball gag? Which way are we going lmao!click to expand
If you want me to punch you in the vagina, sure, you can threaten me with a ball gag. lmao
Posted by SarapisPosted by nikkistarPosted by SarapisPosted by nikkistarPosted by SarapisPosted by nikkistarPosted by Sarapis
I've never met a woman yet who couldn't use a ball-gag every now and then.. take that for what its worth.
That heifer needed submitted into hamburger meat..
Look at you, being so dominant. lol
Are we going to need a ball gag? Which way are we going lmao!
If you want me to punch you in the vagina, sure, you can threaten me with a ball gag. lmao
Ball gag it is!click to expand
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