That is just nasty, people letting their cats mate on their bed by the pillows...WTF
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Posted by MyStarsShineI think it's a good idea to become familiar for health reasons alone.Posted by Feral_doePosted by MyStarsShineI've never tasted myself. The thought has come to mind though.Posted by EnochtheWisePosted by MyStarsShineYou never once asked a man to go down on you?
Well, I never needed to ask those guys to go down on me.....if they didnt like it and wanted to stop....fair play
And for the record, I've never asked a woman to swallow. Most women I've been with who do that, just already do it as a habit, probably from prior experience. I think some women prefer that to keeping it in their mouth/spitting it out actually....Down the hatch real fast to avoid the taste buds perhaps.
I'd also wager that you're probably unique in tasting your own vag. I don't think most women do this, or would like to do this, but still regularly accept oral sex from a man. So the fairness principle really isn't practiced on either side.
Yes I would say I am a unique kind of woman but this thread isn't about me...
I would like to hear from other ladies?
Thanks gents for your input but it was posted in the lady forum and addressed to ladies
Go on, try it......live a little. 😛
Report back lol
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I think it's better now than it used to be, but in the past many women were nervous to look at at their vulvas and vaginas with a mirror, flashlight etc. It's a good idea to do that regularly too for health and understanding one's body.
What this issue really boils down to is lack of communication.
If your feeling pressured to participate in certain sexual acts that you don't enjoy, are painful to you, etc. then it's time to grow a backbone and put your needs first. If you can't communicate your hesitations to your partner then there are more deep rooted issues than your unwillingness to swallow and his fetish for slapping your titties.
If your feeling pressured to participate in certain sexual acts that you don't enjoy, are painful to you, etc. then it's time to grow a backbone and put your needs first. If you can't communicate your hesitations to your partner then there are more deep rooted issues than your unwillingness to swallow and his fetish for slapping your titties.
This is hella long-
I guess i'm going to be the douche here.
People really need to learn to take personal accountability for their feelings, and their actions.
If something makes you uncomfortable- and you choose to not remove yourself or say no- that's on you.
I'm sorry OP- maybe i'm totally devoid of any empathy for these women that you worked with - and i'm an asshat who can't virtue signal with the rest of you. But-
I'm not going to victimize you or give you a sympathy fist bump, because you were with a freaky dude, and YOU choose not to do something about it. It's hard when there is REAL rape, REAL violence, people terrified to leave someone who abuses them- not because "Awe, charlie might leave me!" But because they fear for their lives, and the lives of family/friends.
This is what breeds that nazi feminist mentality here in the states which only aides as a propellant to set women back.
For us to be equal- Truly equal- means we need to accept basic responsibility's.
We have the strength to say no.
We have the strength to leave negative environments.
If you need to pay someone to tell you that- "Violence doesn't equate to love" you need significantly more help than just "spiritual guidance" and you should not be in relationships.
I guess i'm going to be the douche here.
People really need to learn to take personal accountability for their feelings, and their actions.
If something makes you uncomfortable- and you choose to not remove yourself or say no- that's on you.
I'm sorry OP- maybe i'm totally devoid of any empathy for these women that you worked with - and i'm an asshat who can't virtue signal with the rest of you. But-
I'm not going to victimize you or give you a sympathy fist bump, because you were with a freaky dude, and YOU choose not to do something about it. It's hard when there is REAL rape, REAL violence, people terrified to leave someone who abuses them- not because "Awe, charlie might leave me!" But because they fear for their lives, and the lives of family/friends.
This is what breeds that nazi feminist mentality here in the states which only aides as a propellant to set women back.
For us to be equal- Truly equal- means we need to accept basic responsibility's.
We have the strength to say no.
We have the strength to leave negative environments.
If you need to pay someone to tell you that- "Violence doesn't equate to love" you need significantly more help than just "spiritual guidance" and you should not be in relationships.
Posted by ImTheRamYes, exactly. The gender of the people in question is merely circumstantial.
....nobody should say yes and diminish their own values if they don't want to...but thats a pretty basic concept of Humanity.
Posted by Feral_doeSun and Mars in Aquarius, of course ...... 😛Posted by MyStarsShinewhat's his sign?Posted by Feral_doeI only ever met one....he asked me to do it as his other gf's wouldn'tPosted by SimplyBeinMemmhmm.
So what about men that do things to please their woman? Because it's not always the woman going out her way to please her man. So is it fair to the man to do something he doesn't really enjoy just to please his woman or does it work the same way for them?
I'd like to try some pegging but I'm pretty sure not that many guys will say yes 😛
Will I give you his number ? 😛
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Posted by CopperDovePosted by MyStarsShineI think it's a good idea to become familiar for health reasons alone.Posted by Feral_doePosted by MyStarsShineI've never tasted myself. The thought has come to mind though.Posted by EnochtheWisePosted by MyStarsShineYou never once asked a man to go down on you?
Well, I never needed to ask those guys to go down on me.....if they didnt like it and wanted to stop....fair play
And for the record, I've never asked a woman to swallow. Most women I've been with who do that, just already do it as a habit, probably from prior experience. I think some women prefer that to keeping it in their mouth/spitting it out actually....Down the hatch real fast to avoid the taste buds perhaps.
I'd also wager that you're probably unique in tasting your own vag. I don't think most women do this, or would like to do this, but still regularly accept oral sex from a man. So the fairness principle really isn't practiced on either side.
Yes I would say I am a unique kind of woman but this thread isn't about me...
I would like to hear from other ladies?
Thanks gents for your input but it was posted in the lady forum and addressed to ladies
Go on, try it......live a little. 😛
Report back lol
I think it's better now than it used to be, but in the past many women were nervous to look at at their vulvas and vaginas with a mirror, flashlight etc. It's a good idea to do that regularly too for health and understanding one's body.
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I agree Copper....very important
Posted by cheekyfaeriea lot of women out there want love.
Desperate women compromise every part of their being. I'm not sure why you're picking on rough sex, when there are plenty of people and possibly even more people that actually enjoy getting a little kinky.
Also, I just read skitty's comment and Gobby's before and agree this kinda talk just blurs the lines of actual abuse.
Posted by Skitty
This is hella long-
I guess i'm going to be the douche here.
People really need to learn to take personal accountability for their feelings, and their actions.
If something makes you uncomfortable- and you choose to not remove yourself or say no- that's on you.
I'm sorry OP- maybe i'm totally devoid of any empathy for these women that you worked with - and i'm an asshat who can't virtue signal with the rest of you. But-
I'm not going to victimize you or give you a sympathy fist bump, because you were with a freaky dude, and YOU choose not to do something about it. It's hard when there is REAL rape, REAL violence, people terrified to leave someone who abuses them- not because "Awe, charlie might leave me!" But because they fear for their lives, and the lives of family/friends.
This is what breeds that nazi feminist mentality here in the states which only aides as a propellant to set women back.
For us to be equal- Truly equal- means we need to accept basic responsibility's.
We have the strength to say no.
We have the strength to leave negative environments.
If you need to pay someone to tell you that- "Violence doesn't equate to love" you need significantly more help than just "spiritual guidance" and you should not be in relationships.
I like that vid, but she is timid and unsure of herself already. They chose a woman who is unsure of dating and unsure of this guy and got drunk with someone who she doesn't know him well. And how can you trust someone to take care of your well being?? when you are inebrieated??
look at the story of Ike and Tina Turner,
she finally tried to beat hm up when he was trying to beat her up again. But still, she remained with him, until finally she left. it's horrible. how many times did she say no? no goes on deaf ears.
Posted by lisabethur8I have a friend....she was abused by her brother and father. Due to her anger she went onto sleep with over 200 men and then became celibate for over 10 years. Recently she met a guy who is a total control freak....he also calls her names such as *tramp*and accuses her of sleeping with all her male friends. He withheld sex from her as a form of torture, he makes notes in a book of what she says and then throws it back at her. He is a nutcase....also was sexually abused a few times and has lots of issues. He said to her recently that he was going to invite her close friend to the house and tell her how she was behaving .... He then got the notebook ready to read to herPosted by cheekyfaeriea lot of women out there want love.
Desperate women compromise every part of their being. I'm not sure why you're picking on rough sex, when there are plenty of people and possibly even more people that actually enjoy getting a little kinky.
Also, I just read skitty's comment and Gobby's before and agree this kinda talk just blurs the lines of actual abuse.click to expand
When I asked her why she is with him, she told me "because sometimes he is nice to me, he makes me a cup of tea and a sandwich"
::shaking head::
Posted by MyStarsShinein all honesty some relationships such as theirs (coming from both horribly abusive family relationships) require NO sex and healing companionship. sex was just a weapon for her at the time, and she finally could settle with someone who also is similar to her, and can enjoy healing eachother with kindness and consideration.Posted by lisabethur8I have a friend....she was abused by her brother and father. Due to her anger she went onto sleep with over 200 men and then became celibate for over 10 years. Recently she met a guy who is a total control freak....he also calls her names such as *tramp*and accuses her of sleeping with all her male friends. He withheld sex from her as a form of torture, he makes notes in a book of what she says and then throws it back at her. He is a nutcase....also was sexually abused a few times and has lots of issues. He said to her recently that he was going to invite her close friend to the house and tell her how she was behaving .... He then got the notebook ready to read to herPosted by cheekyfaeriea lot of women out there want love.
Desperate women compromise every part of their being. I'm not sure why you're picking on rough sex, when there are plenty of people and possibly even more people that actually enjoy getting a little kinky.
Also, I just read skitty's comment and Gobby's before and agree this kinda talk just blurs the lines of actual abuse.
When I asked her why she is with him, she told me "because sometimes he is nice to me, he makes me a cup of tea and a sandwich"
::shaking head::
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edit - oh wait, that is the SAME guy who makes her tea and sandwich?? who calls her tramp and makes notes and throws it back at her?
ew.
you know I have no idea...
Posted by EnochtheWisePosted by CopperDoveTasting your vagina is good for your health? Come on.Posted by MyStarsShineI think it's a good idea to become familiar for health reasons alone.Posted by Feral_doePosted by MyStarsShineI've never tasted myself. The thought has come to mind though.Posted by EnochtheWisePosted by MyStarsShineYou never once asked a man to go down on you?
Well, I never needed to ask those guys to go down on me.....if they didnt like it and wanted to stop....fair play
And for the record, I've never asked a woman to swallow. Most women I've been with who do that, just already do it as a habit, probably from prior experience. I think some women prefer that to keeping it in their mouth/spitting it out actually....Down the hatch real fast to avoid the taste buds perhaps.
I'd also wager that you're probably unique in tasting your own vag. I don't think most women do this, or would like to do this, but still regularly accept oral sex from a man. So the fairness principle really isn't practiced on either side.
Yes I would say I am a unique kind of woman but this thread isn't about me...
I would like to hear from other ladies?
Thanks gents for your input but it was posted in the lady forum and addressed to ladies
Go on, try it......live a little. 😛
Report back lol
I think it's better now than it used to be, but in the past many women were nervous to look at at their vulvas and vaginas with a mirror, flashlight etc. It's a good idea to do that regularly too for health and understanding one's body.
And Star, how can you cosign this? You said nothing about it being a health issue. It was fairness for you....
To both - what is a healthy tasting vag vs. an unhealthy one, and why cant this be resolved with just taking a whiff?
Sometimes people just do gross things. This sounds like one of them. The equivalent of children eating their boogers.
What dr. recommends it? Virgo placements cant deal....
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The lady raised a good point and I agreed with her...whats up with that?
And you drank your own sperm and said it tasted good, so who is gross now?
Posted by lisabethur8Posted by MyStarsShinein all honesty some relationships such as theirs (coming from both horribly abusive family relationships) require NO sex and healing companionship. sex was just a weapon for her at the time, and she finally could settle with someone who also is similar to her, and can enjoy healing eachother with kindness and consideration.Posted by lisabethur8I have a friend....she was abused by her brother and father. Due to her anger she went onto sleep with over 200 men and then became celibate for over 10 years. Recently she met a guy who is a total control freak....he also calls her names such as *tramp*and accuses her of sleeping with all her male friends. He withheld sex from her as a form of torture, he makes notes in a book of what she says and then throws it back at her. He is a nutcase....also was sexually abused a few times and has lots of issues. He said to her recently that he was going to invite her close friend to the house and tell her how she was behaving .... He then got the notebook ready to read to herPosted by cheekyfaeriea lot of women out there want love.
Desperate women compromise every part of their being. I'm not sure why you're picking on rough sex, when there are plenty of people and possibly even more people that actually enjoy getting a little kinky.
Also, I just read skitty's comment and Gobby's before and agree this kinda talk just blurs the lines of actual abuse.
When I asked her why she is with him, she told me "because sometimes he is nice to me, he makes me a cup of tea and a sandwich"
::shaking head::
edit - oh wait, that is the SAME guy who makes her tea and sandwich?? who calls her tramp and makes notes and throws it back at her?
ew.
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Crazy stuff Lisa.....
Posted by EnochtheWiseNobody told me anything....Posted by MyStarsShineI was kidding. Would never....what do u think are the health benefits? Who told you its important to taste your own vag?Posted by EnochtheWisePosted by CopperDoveTasting your vagina is good for your health? Come on.Posted by MyStarsShineI think it's a good idea to become familiar for health reasons alone.Posted by Feral_doePosted by MyStarsShineI've never tasted myself. The thought has come to mind though.Posted by EnochtheWisePosted by MyStarsShineYou never once asked a man to go down on you?
Well, I never needed to ask those guys to go down on me.....if they didnt like it and wanted to stop....fair play
And for the record, I've never asked a woman to swallow. Most women I've been with who do that, just already do it as a habit, probably from prior experience. I think some women prefer that to keeping it in their mouth/spitting it out actually....Down the hatch real fast to avoid the taste buds perhaps.
I'd also wager that you're probably unique in tasting your own vag. I don't think most women do this, or would like to do this, but still regularly accept oral sex from a man. So the fairness principle really isn't practiced on either side.
Yes I would say I am a unique kind of woman but this thread isn't about me...
I would like to hear from other ladies?
Thanks gents for your input but it was posted in the lady forum and addressed to ladies
Go on, try it......live a little. 😛
Report back lol
I think it's better now than it used to be, but in the past many women were nervous to look at at their vulvas and vaginas with a mirror, flashlight etc. It's a good idea to do that regularly too for health and understanding one's body.
And Star, how can you cosign this? You said nothing about it being a health issue. It was fairness for you....
To both - what is a healthy tasting vag vs. an unhealthy one, and why cant this be resolved with just taking a whiff?
Sometimes people just do gross things. This sounds like one of them. The equivalent of children eating their boogers.
What dr. recommends it? Virgo placements cant deal....
The lady raised a good point and I agreed with her...whats up with that?
And you drank your own sperm and said it tasted good, so who is gross now?
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I tried it out of curiosity.....you seem very squeamish ... Where is your Virgo stuff?
Posted by EnochtheWiseJust like odour can tell you things about vaginal health, so too can taste. For some people they can't smell as well as taste, even though the senses are related, so it's an option. Fishy odours and tastes can indicate infection (w/o other obvious symptoms), and also if you aren't healthy there can be more bacteria that create unpleasant tastes, even bitter. Some medications can alter things too, and that isn't good, because there is a balance that's needed to be healthy with vaginal flora. Yeast infections, in contrast, don't have a bad smell usually, but they have very obvious symptoms (itching, discharge).Posted by CopperDoveTasting your vagina is good for your health? Come on.Posted by MyStarsShineI think it's a good idea to become familiar for health reasons alone.Posted by Feral_doePosted by MyStarsShineI've never tasted myself. The thought has come to mind though.Posted by EnochtheWisePosted by MyStarsShineYou never once asked a man to go down on you?
Well, I never needed to ask those guys to go down on me.....if they didnt like it and wanted to stop....fair play
And for the record, I've never asked a woman to swallow. Most women I've been with who do that, just already do it as a habit, probably from prior experience. I think some women prefer that to keeping it in their mouth/spitting it out actually....Down the hatch real fast to avoid the taste buds perhaps.
I'd also wager that you're probably unique in tasting your own vag. I don't think most women do this, or would like to do this, but still regularly accept oral sex from a man. So the fairness principle really isn't practiced on either side.
Yes I would say I am a unique kind of woman but this thread isn't about me...
I would like to hear from other ladies?
Thanks gents for your input but it was posted in the lady forum and addressed to ladies
Go on, try it......live a little. 😛
Report back lol
I think it's better now than it used to be, but in the past many women were nervous to look at at their vulvas and vaginas with a mirror, flashlight etc. It's a good idea to do that regularly too for health and understanding one's body.
And Star, how can you cosign this? You said nothing about it being a health issue. It was fairness for you....
To both - what is a healthy tasting vag vs. an unhealthy one, and why cant this be resolved with just taking a whiff?
Sometimes people just do gross things. This sounds like one of them. The equivalent of children eating their boogers.
What dr. recommends it? Virgo placements cant deal....
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It also gives menstrual cycle information, with musky tastes and smells around the time of ovulation. That is also helpful to know.
So it's helpful as a diagnostic (and of course a person can go to a doctor for verification) and fertility.
As for healthy taste, mild, but slightly tangy, usually. The pH balance is key.
Worst thing I ever heard was from a man who went down on a woman and it was so awful -- so sharp -- that he said it was like "battery acid." He didn't know why she didn't notice, but some women have a very poor sense of smell (that's health related too, sometimes from zinc deficiency) and that would affect taste ability as well, so maybe she didn't know. But I think some women are so unhealthy for so long they don't know what's healthy vs not - or they didn't learn.
Posted by EnochtheWiseSour cream...Posted by MyStarsShineSo you taste your own vag? And you think the taste is universally appealing to the men you've been with? Like they'd order it sweet musky vag-flavored crème brûlée for dessert?Posted by EnochtheWiseI would love to give a guy a good pummelling, but he would have to very much want that and enjoy it...the problem is finding guys that have a high pain barrier, not many around tbh.Posted by MyStarsShineSo that is why you pulled his hair then. LOL. I figured because you pretty much implicitly admit that you don't derive pleasure from inflicting pain. This is the Scorpio way of establishing boundaries I guess.Posted by EnochtheWiseFair is fairPosted by MyStarsShineYeah, but was this a passive-aggressive move on your part to sort of counter-balance/negotiate with him so he'd stop spanking you hard? That's the mentality I perceive from having read some of your threads, with regards to swallowing for instance. I've seen you make comments along the lines of "If he doesn't want to swallow it, how can he expect me to?", which completely misses the point.Posted by SimplyBeinMe
So what about men that do things to please their woman? Because it's not always the woman going out her way to please her man. So is it fair to the man to do something he doesn't really enjoy just to please his woman or does it work the same way for them?
I was with a guy who liked spanking me hard but when I tried some hair pulling he was like 'ouch that hurts' so I stopped as I could see he was struggling with the pain......works both ways of course. No means no, whatever gender. If I had carried on pulling his lovely hair, i would have been out of order
Never ask someone to do something that you would not have done to yourself
Now to your "fair is fair" argument. Not to be crass or anything, but when's the last time you took a good sampling of your own vaginal secretions? How'd they taste?
Or do you not allow men to perform oral sex on you?
You are not being crass and they taste good....sensual, musky sweetness...moon in Taurus sweetness that is
I love oral sex....
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Posted by Feral_doeI know you're not disagreeing, but what you're discussing has nothing to do with the point that the OP was trying to make. You're going on about BDSM and all this other shit and that is NOT what the OP was referring to. BDSM is a whole other topic dear.Posted by rockyroadicecreamfor the record, I am not disagreeing with you. not one bit.Posted by Feral_doeStill missing the point.Posted by rockyroadicecreamThat can also be a facet of bsdm. Not one I personally subscribe to, but from what I've read (there are a shit ton of blogs from super uber submissives) they find their special brand of empowerment from being competent subservient.
Some women take "pleasing" too far and are borderline subservient individuals who allow themselves to be degraded by a guy who supposedly loves and respects them.
Unfortunately, there are too many women out there who fall into the subservient role and sacrifice their own emotional well being for the sake of keeping her dude "happy." That's not how it works, ladies. You're doing it entirely wrong.
Do you need to take a class on reading comprehension?
Try again.
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Posted by PeanutButterandEllyhttp://www.cracked.com/blog/how-men-are-trained-to-think-sexual-assault-no-big-deal/
The problem is less about whatever someone's kink or relationship to porn is and more about what we teach women about sex.
Men are taught that their sexual advances, aggression and desires are normal and encouraged in most senses. Women aren't taught anything, or if they are it's that their inherent value is in trying to be as sexy as possible without actually having too much sex.
It's not about a women telling a man yes or no to a certain act. It's about teaching women to discover what acts, links or desires they might have.
OP, I enjoyed reading your post. It most definitely has its place. To the thinking woman, your words will most definitely inspire intelligent conversation. Your point of view is a great alternative to the popular rough sex loving crowd - and I admit that I'm one of those women.
It's the sort of post that most definitely can trigger a defensive response from me, but it hasn't because what you say is true. I don't take it personally and, in fact, I will tuck that piece of advice in my back of my mind for if I ever need it. If I look at it objectively, what you say has a lot of truth and sense (even if it doesn't apply to me in this moment.)
Cheers!
It's the sort of post that most definitely can trigger a defensive response from me, but it hasn't because what you say is true. I don't take it personally and, in fact, I will tuck that piece of advice in my back of my mind for if I ever need it. If I look at it objectively, what you say has a lot of truth and sense (even if it doesn't apply to me in this moment.)
Cheers!
Posted by LadyNeptuneThis goes back to societal conditioning.
What this issue really boils down to is lack of communication.
If your feeling pressured to participate in certain sexual acts that you don't enjoy, are painful to you, etc. then it's time to grow a backbone and put your needs first. If you can't communicate your hesitations to your partner then there are more deep rooted issues than your unwillingness to swallow and his fetish for slapping your titties.
God forbid a woman appear "bitchy" or "prudish" if she doesn't want to do some shit the guy wants. Unfortunately, there's a lot of women out there who are just totally meek when it comes to this stuff. Sex is a touchy subject to approach for many.
And lol @ whoever was discounting porn. Porn plays a pretty big role because if it wasn't so easily accessible to young minds barely learning about sex (and has practically replaced sex ed), we'd have more informed sexual beings out there. Porn totally objectifies women and they're basically cum dumpsters for the dudes on screen. These stupid kids go around thinking this is how it really is when the reality is that this ISN'T how it is. Women don't automatically like BJs or cum on their face. This goes back on communication, but when you have dudes who think sex is like porn, and girls trying to live up to those expectations because this bullshit is their sex ed, then we have a problem.
What the issue the OP pointed out is pretty multifaceted. You have societal factors, you have poor examples educating the young masses of what sex is, you've got people who have piss poor communication, etc.
Posted by cheekyfaeriePosted by lisabethur8Agreed, but they need to learn to love themselves first. The kinds of actions Star's talking about could very well have stemmed from some sort of abuse, but I have an issue with the angle she's using to get to the root of the problem.Posted by cheekyfaeriea lot of women out there want love.
Desperate women compromise every part of their being. I'm not sure why you're picking on rough sex, when there are plenty of people and possibly even more people that actually enjoy getting a little kinky.
Also, I just read skitty's comment and Gobby's before and agree this kinda talk just blurs the lines of actual abuse.click to expand
I didn't get to read everything.
I focused on the OP, but I guess the play by play talk between the men and the women, was I guess about going down on eachother.
actually I think it's from LACK of abuse.
lack of attention.
it could be opposite, Someone who is abused doesn't want abuse.
or they could INFLICT abuse onto others. Because it's a pattern. They're usually the abusers.
I don't know really.
I don't know anyone personally our lives that like abuse in sex, or are abusive ect. That's very odd behavior. it comes from something very deeply psychological.
i'm no professional but I could go and do some research.
Posted by EnochtheWiseIts also worth noting that the consistency/makeup for vag secretions changes throughout the month based on factors like cycle, diet, stress...etc. So on any given 'taste test' it will be different.Posted by CopperDoveTasting your vagina is good for your health? Come on.Posted by MyStarsShineI think it's a good idea to become familiar for health reasons alone.Posted by Feral_doePosted by MyStarsShineI've never tasted myself. The thought has come to mind though.Posted by EnochtheWisePosted by MyStarsShineYou never once asked a man to go down on you?
Well, I never needed to ask those guys to go down on me.....if they didnt like it and wanted to stop....fair play
And for the record, I've never asked a woman to swallow. Most women I've been with who do that, just already do it as a habit, probably from prior experience. I think some women prefer that to keeping it in their mouth/spitting it out actually....Down the hatch real fast to avoid the taste buds perhaps.
I'd also wager that you're probably unique in tasting your own vag. I don't think most women do this, or would like to do this, but still regularly accept oral sex from a man. So the fairness principle really isn't practiced on either side.
Yes I would say I am a unique kind of woman but this thread isn't about me...
I would like to hear from other ladies?
Thanks gents for your input but it was posted in the lady forum and addressed to ladies
Go on, try it......live a little. 😛
Report back lol
I think it's better now than it used to be, but in the past many women were nervous to look at at their vulvas and vaginas with a mirror, flashlight etc. It's a good idea to do that regularly too for health and understanding one's body.
And Star, how can you cosign this? You said nothing about it being a health issue. It was fairness for you....
To both - what is a healthy tasting vag vs. an unhealthy one, and why cant this be resolved with just taking a whiff?
Sometimes people just do gross things. This sounds like one of them. The equivalent of children eating their boogers.
What dr. recommends it? Virgo placements cant deal....
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Posted by rockyroadicecreamIt's seems similar to the same mentality that has these women fucking the guy 5 days a week...and yet she's afraid to call him and appear 'clingy'. Like really? You let this dude inside your body and are worried that you might be intruding on his day with a phone call?Posted by LadyNeptuneThis goes back to societal conditioning.
What this issue really boils down to is lack of communication.
If your feeling pressured to participate in certain sexual acts that you don't enjoy, are painful to you, etc. then it's time to grow a backbone and put your needs first. If you can't communicate your hesitations to your partner then there are more deep rooted issues than your unwillingness to swallow and his fetish for slapping your titties.
God forbid a woman appear "bitchy" or "prudish" if she doesn't want to do some shit the guy wants. Unfortunately, there's a lot of women out there who are just totally meek when it comes to this stuff. Sex is a touchy subject to approach for many.
And lol @ whoever was discounting porn. Porn plays a pretty big role because if it wasn't so easily accessible to young minds barely learning about sex and has practically replaced sex ed. We'd have more informed sexual beings out there if there was proper sex ed going on. Porn totally objectifies women and they're basically cum dumpsters for the dudes on screen. These stupid kids go around thinking this is how it really is when the reality is that this ISN'T how it is. Women don't automatically like BJs or cum on their face. This goes back on communication, but when you have dudes who think sex is like porn, and girls trying to live up to those expectations because this bullshit is their sex ed, then we have a problem.
What the issue the OP pointed out is pretty multifaceted. You have societal factors, you have poor examples educating the young masses of what sex is, you've got people who have piss poor communication, etc.click to expand
Posted by LadyNeptuneYuup.Posted by rockyroadicecreamIt's seems similar to the same mentality that has these women fucking the guy 5 days a week...and yet she's afraid to call him and appear 'clingy'. Like really? You let this dude inside your body and are worried that you might be intruding on his day with a phone call?Posted by LadyNeptuneThis goes back to societal conditioning.
What this issue really boils down to is lack of communication.
If your feeling pressured to participate in certain sexual acts that you don't enjoy, are painful to you, etc. then it's time to grow a backbone and put your needs first. If you can't communicate your hesitations to your partner then there are more deep rooted issues than your unwillingness to swallow and his fetish for slapping your titties.
God forbid a woman appear "bitchy" or "prudish" if she doesn't want to do some shit the guy wants. Unfortunately, there's a lot of women out there who are just totally meek when it comes to this stuff. Sex is a touchy subject to approach for many.
And lol @ whoever was discounting porn. Porn plays a pretty big role because if it wasn't so easily accessible to young minds barely learning about sex and has practically replaced sex ed. We'd have more informed sexual beings out there if there was proper sex ed going on. Porn totally objectifies women and they're basically cum dumpsters for the dudes on screen. These stupid kids go around thinking this is how it really is when the reality is that this ISN'T how it is. Women don't automatically like BJs or cum on their face. This goes back on communication, but when you have dudes who think sex is like porn, and girls trying to live up to those expectations because this bullshit is their sex ed, then we have a problem.
What the issue the OP pointed out is pretty multifaceted. You have societal factors, you have poor examples educating the young masses of what sex is, you've got people who have piss poor communication, etc.
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Posted by EnochtheWisePosted by MyStarsShineAsc. and Venus....so what other bodily secretions have you sampled? How about urine? Puss from a scab? Ear wax? Why just the vag?Posted by EnochtheWiseNobody told me anything....Posted by MyStarsShineI was kidding. Would never....what do u think are the health benefits? Who told you its important to taste your own vag?Posted by EnochtheWisePosted by CopperDoveTasting your vagina is good for your health? Come on.Posted by MyStarsShineI think it's a good idea to become familiar for health reasons alone.Posted by Feral_doePosted by MyStarsShineI've never tasted myself. The thought has come to mind though.Posted by EnochtheWisePosted by MyStarsShineYou never once asked a man to go down on you?
Well, I never needed to ask those guys to go down on me.....if they didnt like it and wanted to stop....fair play
And for the record, I've never asked a woman to swallow. Most women I've been with who do that, just already do it as a habit, probably from prior experience. I think some women prefer that to keeping it in their mouth/spitting it out actually....Down the hatch real fast to avoid the taste buds perhaps.
I'd also wager that you're probably unique in tasting your own vag. I don't think most women do this, or would like to do this, but still regularly accept oral sex from a man. So the fairness principle really isn't practiced on either side.
Yes I would say I am a unique kind of woman but this thread isn't about me...
I would like to hear from other ladies?
Thanks gents for your input but it was posted in the lady forum and addressed to ladies
Go on, try it......live a little. 😛
Report back lol
I think it's better now than it used to be, but in the past many women were nervous to look at at their vulvas and vaginas with a mirror, flashlight etc. It's a good idea to do that regularly too for health and understanding one's body.
And Star, how can you cosign this? You said nothing about it being a health issue. It was fairness for you....
To both - what is a healthy tasting vag vs. an unhealthy one, and why cant this be resolved with just taking a whiff?
Sometimes people just do gross things. This sounds like one of them. The equivalent of children eating their boogers.
What dr. recommends it? Virgo placements cant deal....
The lady raised a good point and I agreed with her...whats up with that?
And you drank your own sperm and said it tasted good, so who is gross now?
I tried it out of curiosity.....you seem very squeamish ... Where is your Virgo stuff?
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You are being silly now....no none of those....I once tasted my vagina out of sheer curiosity and you are making a huge deal of it....😐
The only other secretions I sampled was male sperm......gross
I rarely menustrate in all my 42 years.... sour cream... all day every day. My Virgo surprises me. One night a little bit of penetration, a little slurpy slurp, a little penetration, more slurpy slurp. I was in orgasmic shock not knowing when the next slurpy slurp was coming, how long penetration. He was an animal about it all, sincerely wanting everything... smorgasbord.
I rarely menustrate in all my 42 years.... sour cream... all day every day. My Virgo surprises me. One night a little bit of penetration, a little slurpy slurp, a little penetration, more slurpy slurp. I was in orgasmic shock not knowing when the next slurpy slurp was coming, how long penetration. He was an animal about it all, sincerely wanting everything... smorgasbord. I'm sure he tasted us.
Posted by ImTheRamI'm personally the opposite of what you're describing: the more I get older and the more I don't see the point of controlling it anymore, neither emotionally nor physically. These days the only form of control I exercise is over myself in not pursuing other people when I'm in a relationship already but that's about it, I don't derive pleasure from controlled forms of having pleasure. That is an oxymoron to me.
Humm so thats how Marquis du Sade wrote his books...he was watching BDSM on his flat screen...
Now wait a minute...did i just created a time paradox?
Denying your "animal" instincts doesnt make you more or less of a person...
Controling our instincts is what makes us Humans in the end...
And for some, the way to control it is by sharing it with their partner...it makes them feel alive! A *precious* bond!
Lets not confuse abuse and rapists with controled pleasure.
Mostly because enjoying rough sex - with the safety of the other constantly in mind - doesn't measure up to having the animalistic instinct to hurt nor abuse anyone; I can't speak for everyone but that is simply not how most people work. If I don't have the instinct of humiliating anyone, even though my preference is for rough usually, what is that I'm exactly holding back? Nothing.
Furthermore human beings are far more complex than animals. I simply do not see myself, neither I'd like to in the slightest way, as a controlled and enfeebled version of an animal... Why do we have to see ourselves in a similar manner when we're far more advanced than them? How depressing is that? To degrade yourself to a level where not only you consider yourself inferior to animals, when you're not, but you also have to control your instincts instead of integrating them? Then we wonder why younger men are seen by women as soft as treetrunk and lacking in vigor. If there's anything negative with porn for men is that they end up looking even more ridiculous in the eyes of women – who watch it too and higher their expectations convincing themselves is the norm for an inexperienced guy to treetrunk them like that…thus the problem to me seems to be the opposite of what has been described is this thread. Men these days, obviously incapable of emulating the gestures of porn actors who treetrunk for a living, end up being even more scared of women and if possible are less animalistic than ever due to the constant pressure they’re feeling. And it’s hard to imagine similar individuals as being able of hurting anyone when porn is, contrarily to what we think, leading them to paralysis and absurd scenarios in which they start seen women as unspoiled flowers…
Now what I don't like about a similar forma mentis is that considering yourself "an animal who needs to control his/her impulses" is a mindset that mostly deals with limitations and it's rooted in the conviction that every human is born evil. Yes we're selfish and have needs that must be met, sporadically sinful too but being evil is something else. Evilness implies that what we're doing in life is by default immoral, leading us to embark in a life's path of redemption since day 1; like if we're always born with a debt to pay to society... IMO having lessons to learn it should not be seen as a form of paying amends to something wrong we have done in the past; on the contrary it should be seen as making a conscious effort towards becoming a more proactive and mature person. Basically the goal should be to strive to be like that because it's our choice and we want to.
For instance I have the venus/pluto square natally and I've struggled in the past with power dynamics, like many and especially with authorities, towards whom I used to have a total lack of respect. In the process I had to correct something, but you know what was the biggest wake up call for me?
It was to realize that I become more powerful if I lose control AND that I should not feel guilty of actions I haven’t done in this life; mainly because what I've done was never and objectively immoral in nature. Thus if it wasn't immoral why should I feel guilty? Why should I reedem and liberate myself from evil forces that were never there? How absurd was for me to be the victim of my own past actions? Of actions I wasn't even consciously responsable for in this life? I can't even tell you how liberating it was to get out of a mechanism where I was basically punishing myself for nothing that tangibly happened. Even more absurd was to feel guilty about craving something while in the meantime exercising a latent form of self-control for having such impulses...
Besides, if you think about it the word 'redemption' is formed with the use of the Latin prefix 're', which means 'back'. And personal growth to me is about moving forward – possibly my progressive aqua bits are now speaking - not looking back in the attempt to buy (back)- which is what 'emere' means - an innocence we never possessed to begin with. We were never evil nor innocent, and being human to me was never about controlling my instincts nor reversing to a previous status of immaculate perfection that was never there.
Striving to be more 'innocent', in a process of sanctification, by controlling our animalistic impulses makes no sense to me, if anything we should embrace them more by being more instinctive individuals, not controlled animals. Also sharing to me sounds like the opposite of controlling, it's about expansion through tapping into, in that sense animalistic, our most primordial desires, it’s about finding someone who’s willing to go as far as you’d want to. You see how the perspective is completely reversed and your actions are now empowering and not self-limiting in nature; they stem from you and they are not the result of external events. Once you remove the sense of guilt the process becomes generative and not destructive.
There's something off in people seeing themselves as monsters when in reality they're little lambs who mystify reality and indulge in self-pity. And I'm a Pisces so it's not like I wasn't delusional myself a few years ago, like pretty much anyone who's here on DXP. On a side note, I’d like to meet all those people whose passion is so uncontrollable during their intercourses that they run the risk of killing the other. Who are they? Seriously…
@ImTheRam
Obviously nothing against you; I just felt like writing for the sake of writing 😄
Obviously nothing against you; I just felt like writing for the sake of writing 😄
In a way exercising too much control over ourselves is just like having the misconception that money are evil because most of the people who are wealthy in our society - such as politicians and other influencial figures - are crooked.
Thus in the attempt of rejecting the idea of ourselves becoming like them, which is admirable per se, we end up rejecting money as well and being poor and unsatisfied for life.
Thus in the attempt of rejecting the idea of ourselves becoming like them, which is admirable per se, we end up rejecting money as well and being poor and unsatisfied for life.
Posted by ImTheRamYou're right, I'd be probably rude if I wasn't thankful too for the condescending reply...🙂Posted by PalerioAll fair mate 🙂
@ImTheRam
Obviously nothing against you; I just felt like writing for the sake of writing 😄
A good debate can only happen when a group of people have diferent ideas and they can express them with respect and integrity.
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