Pisces Venus Assistance

How do you get a pisces venus to be more grounded and let go of toxic individuals in their lives?

lol. other than being emotionally unavailable I try to keep my toxicity down.... I didn't know if anybody especially a pisces venus knows how they keep you from rose colored glasses syndrome.

Why would you want someone to be other than what they are?

He's still living in her house?

Posted by LadyNeptune

He's still living in her house?

no. she finally ditched him it took a few weeks but all his stuff is out and key is back with her for the last few weeks. He stalked her and I when we went out with friends Thursday and she finally had enough and friday and told him she was going back to me(originally she told him she needed space and wanted to be single) and things went left.... saturday he kept blowing up her phone and she kept talking to him while we and a few friends were at an amusement park... he (pisces moon/libra sun)... keeps saying he's tired of his life, and hasn't eaten since she told him Friday. he asked if he could come by and see her yesterday to talk and if they could do homework together, why she said yes I don't know.... he then proceeds to come over and get drunk and stay over... and then called out of work today.... I told her he's not her problem. and it wasn't a good idea that she even invited him around. He's hurt because they've known each other so long and blah blah... She is doing this she feels guilty song and dance.

I read up on Pisces venus and I was like.... THIS... because the Aqua sun/Aries moon is making no sense. tolerance for this is zilch

Posted by LadyNeptune

Why would you want someone to be other than what they are?

It's not about not being who they are.... it's about understand when someone is manipulating them. I actually appreciate her being more sympathetic and empathetic than I am. I am pretty grounded when it comes to bs....and it seems like she's not seeing it I'm trying to figure a way to discuss it that would be receptive.

The empathic and sympathetic nature she has is literally being abused not only by her sister, and her mother but by this libra.... She finally asked me to partner with her to manage her sister and mom - after almost a year, but she keeps this friendship window open with the Libra and hes using it as a foothold, which I feel is counter productive... but she feels guilty so I'm trying to be patient about it, but make sure she sees it.

@Aquarelle

She's pretty close to your placements.... she's an Aries Moon, Cancer Mars only difference. I will say her neptune is in Capricorn though but that's an idealistic placement too.

Yeah... Friday she had enough and then Sunday she's empathetic again... I'm like you know he literally stalked us a few days ago? yeah I feel bad for him though... *rolling eyes*...

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Posted by LadyNeptune

Why would you want someone to be other than what they are?

It's not about not being who they are.... it's about understand when someone is manipulating them. I actually appreciate her being more sympathetic and empathetic than I am. I am pretty grounded when it comes to bs....and it seems like she's not seeing it I'm trying to figure a way to discuss it that would be receptive.

The empathic and sympathetic nature she has is literally being abused not only by her sister, and her mother but by this libra.... She finally asked me to partner with her to manage her sister and mom - after almost a year, but she keeps this friendship window open with the Libra and hes using it as a foothold, which I feel is counter productive... but she feels guilty so I'm trying to be patient about it, but make sure she sees it.

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I don't think its only guilt.

Once she got with this guy you started to come around again, and show interest. Things she felt were lacking in the past, suddenly you are there attentive and caring and giving her all the things she wanted from you when she was exclusively yours. So I don't she will be letting him go anytime soon. He is the catalyst to her getting what she wants outta you.

And I'm sure it sweetens the pot a bit for her to know that you know she also has options. Your not the only one with a weekly rotation. She wants to make sure you know that he's on the bench hand in the air, put me in coach!

I wouldn't say she is the victim here being manipulated by him.

You can’t get her to do anything she doesn’t want to do. Thing is I’m sure you like her empathetic nature towards you. This is who she is. We learn eventually when we don’t like how we are being treated. One must decide they’ve had enough and get stronger. Then, they won’t fall for it so much.

You need to let her learn. Your problem is you want things how you want them, and you want to make her fall in line. It’s not how it works. I learned this lesson the hard way seriously. Sometimes people never learn… and sometimes they do. You just can’t make her.

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Why would you want someone to be other than what they are?

It's not about not being who they are.... it's about understand when someone is manipulating them. I actually appreciate her being more sympathetic and empathetic than I am. I am pretty grounded when it comes to bs....and it seems like she's not seeing it I'm trying to figure a way to discuss it that would be receptive.

The empathic and sympathetic nature she has is literally being abused not only by her sister, and her mother but by this libra.... She finally asked me to partner with her to manage her sister and mom - after almost a year, but she keeps this friendship window open with the Libra and hes using it as a foothold, which I feel is counter productive... but she feels guilty so I'm trying to be patient about it, but make sure she sees it.

I don't think its only guilt.

Once she got with this guy you started to come around again, and show interest. Things she felt were lacking in the past, suddenly you are there attentive and caring and giving her all the things she wanted from you when she was exclusively yours. So I don't she will be letting him go anytime soon. He is the catalyst to her getting what she wants outta you.

And I'm sure it sweetens the pot a bit for her to know that you know she also has options. Your not the only one with a weekly rotation. She wants to make sure you know that he's on the bench hand in the air, put me in coach!

I wouldn't say she is the victim here being manipulated by him.

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That's not really fair because as soon as I KNEW what she wanted I switched it on. She caught a whiff of a Capricorn I chatted with and ghosted a few years back, honest to god don't know why she texted me out the blue, when she had my phone texting my mom and playing music in the car, nothing serious went out once she seemed a little too into herself. Aqua was LIVID, asking who she was, what she looked like blah blah... and I was thinking to myself. you had a WHOLE relationship going like a month and a half ago... she and I have since been quasi finding our way back.... she asked if I slept with her... the honest to god answer was no, but never seen her jealous in that way before. she later asked me if I regretted making the decision to get back together.

The Aqua actually always took care of me... she just had a girl friend and would disappear for a day or two at a time... so I would play on those days (she told me never let her find out, and not in our place).... so I wasn't ever breaking any boundaries... but I think she wants to get married and have a family so I've actually behaved the last month... pretty easily as I thought we were charting the committed realm... but her allowing this libra to be around is making me hit my brakes until she is 100% back. so its a double-edge sword.

Posted by PuzzlePieces

You can’t get her to do anything she doesn’t want to do. Thing is I’m sure you like her empathetic nature towards you. This is who she is. We learn eventually when we don’t like how we are being treated. One must decide they’ve had enough and get stronger. Then, they won’t fall for it so much.

You need to let her learn. Your problem is you want things how you want them, and you want to make her fall in line. It’s not how it works. I learned this lesson the hard way seriously. Sometimes people never learn… and sometimes they do. You just can’t make her.

Pfft I can't think of a time she's empathetic towards me... if anything she holds me to a pretty high damn standard. she's way nicer to friends/people she doesn't know. we actually give each other a lot of shit. I actually like it that way, she holds me accountable.... now I'm just confused because her venus is like completely opposite her moon and sun sign.... so I guess I need to be nicer in how I say things.... or less blunt. Me being a sag sun/aries moon and her being an aqua sun/aries moon I though we were a lot the same... but I never looked at that pisces venus until now (i'm a scorp venus so we are compatible).... and my scorp rising/her virgo rising also are a match....

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You can’t get her to do anything she doesn’t want to do. Thing is I’m sure you like her empathetic nature towards you. This is who she is. We learn eventually when we don’t like how we are being treated. One must decide they’ve had enough and get stronger. Then, they won’t fall for it so much.

You need to let her learn. Your problem is you want things how you want them, and you want to make her fall in line. It’s not how it works. I learned this lesson the hard way seriously. Sometimes people never learn… and sometimes they do. You just can’t make her.

Pfft I can't think of a time she's empathetic towards me... if anything she holds me to a pretty high damn standard. she's way nicer to friends/people she doesn't know. we actually give each other a lot of shit. I actually like it that way, she holds me accountable.... now I'm just confused because her venus is like completely opposite her moon and sun sign.... so I guess I need to be nicer in how I say things.... or less blunt. Me being a sag sun/aries moon and her being an aqua sun/aries moon I though we were a lot the same... but I never looked at that pisces venus until now (i'm a scorp venus so we are compatible).... and my scorp rising/her virgo rising also are a match....

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Well if you needed her help she would. Seems like more you’re always trying to help her or fix her. I’m partially telling you as a Saggie who has been married twice.. I always wanted things to work according to what I wanted. But it’s very important in a partnership to allow for choices and to have faith in your partner they can handle themselves. Otherwise there are problems. I’m also aqua moon/cap dominant & very empathetic. I’ve had to learn the hard way that I can’t save the world. It’s more like help people with tools so they can do it themselves, if they want to. Some people don’t. And seriously it’s part of the package of what you are ok or not okay with. It’s not always about a match..

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lol. other than being emotionally unavailable I try to keep my toxicity down....

For this reason, I hope she keeps her options open. I really don’t think you have the best intentions for her.. no disrespect. You only want her because your possessive scorp Venus became engaged/obsessed when you learned that you had some competition and she became a challenge.

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People get us Scorpio Venus's all wrong 😢

I'm a Sag with Scorpio Venus, and half the time I can't even tell if I'm in love, until I lose the person.

Scorpio is in detriment in Venus sign, so it take some pain to activate it.

Things were going fine in his relationship, as far as he was concerned, just going with the flow for 4 years- until he found out she was seeing this guy.

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Posted by hellosaggy

lol. other than being emotionally unavailable I try to keep my toxicity down....

For this reason, I hope she keeps her options open. I really don’t think you have the best intentions for her.. no disrespect. You only want her because your possessive scorp Venus became engaged/obsessed when you learned that you had some competition and she became a challenge.

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No... I am more so emotionally unavailable to protect myself as I get pretty deep... I'm actually pretty emotionally connected to her. Always have been. I think my Aries moon makes me seem a little more detached than normal. I've always said "ok" to relationships...I've never been the one to initiate them. She was so all over the place sometimes. It wasn't until she was yelling at me for not wanting one recently that I realized she actually wanted one. Then I was like WTF why didn't you just say it. She would always throw what if scenarios out then recant or say never mind.

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Posted by LadyNeptune

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Posted by LadyNeptune

Why would you want someone to be other than what they are?

It's not about not being who they are.... it's about understand when someone is manipulating them. I actually appreciate her being more sympathetic and empathetic than I am. I am pretty grounded when it comes to bs....and it seems like she's not seeing it I'm trying to figure a way to discuss it that would be receptive.

The empathic and sympathetic nature she has is literally being abused not only by her sister, and her mother but by this libra.... She finally asked me to partner with her to manage her sister and mom - after almost a year, but she keeps this friendship window open with the Libra and hes using it as a foothold, which I feel is counter productive... but she feels guilty so I'm trying to be patient about it, but make sure she sees it.

I don't think its only guilt.

Once she got with this guy you started to come around again, and show interest. Things she felt were lacking in the past, suddenly you are there attentive and caring and giving her all the things she wanted from you when she was exclusively yours. So I don't she will be letting him go anytime soon. He is the catalyst to her getting what she wants outta you.

And I'm sure it sweetens the pot a bit for her to know that you know she also has options. Your not the only one with a weekly rotation. She wants to make sure you know that he's on the bench hand in the air, put me in coach!

I wouldn't say she is the victim here being manipulated by him.

That's not really fair because as soon as I KNEW what she wanted I switched it on. She caught a whiff of a Capricorn I chatted with and ghosted a few years back, honest to god don't know why she texted me out the blue, when she had my phone texting my mom and playing music in the car, nothing serious went out once she seemed a little too into herself. Aqua was LIVID, asking who she was, what she looked like blah blah... and I was thinking to myself. you had a WHOLE relationship going like a month and a half ago... she and I have since been quasi finding our way back.... she asked if I slept with her... the honest to god answer was no, but never seen her jealous in that way before. she later asked me if I regretted making the decision to get back together.

The Aqua actually always took care of me... she just had a girl friend and would disappear for a day or two at a time... so I would play on those days (she told me never let her find out, and not in our place).... so I wasn't ever breaking any boundaries... but I think she wants to get married and have a family so I've actually behaved the last month... pretty easily as I thought we were charting the committed realm... but her allowing this libra to be around is making me hit my brakes until she is 100% back. so its a double-edge sword.

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Well of course she couldn't demand monogamy from you the first time around, she was actively cheating on her relationship with you. So yeah she played it cool and said "not in our place and don't tell me about it". But she also broke up with you because she felt you weren't serious about the relationship.

Fucking other people is a big part of that.

Sure you were honest and upfront with how it was. I'm just saying, she accepted those boundaries, she didn't like them. Hence the breakup.

If anything this is an epic taste of your own medicine. You stepped it up when he was in the picture cause it triggered you to realize, yes you do really like her/want to be back with her.

I don't agree with how she is going about it tho. Using someone with (allegedly) mental health issues and suicide tendencies (again allegedly) to make you jealous is not gonna do any favors for her karma.

Maybe I watch to much true crime (I know I do) but this seems like the precursor to a double homicide/suicide plot. If he is truly this fragile and obsessive (allegedly), knows where she lives and that she is seeing you again... well my brain just always goes to the dark place.

If I'm you I'm helping her change the locks asap. Him returning a key means fuck all when you can have a copy made for $ 2.

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Posted by LadyNeptune

He's still living in her house?

no. she finally ditched him it took a few weeks but all his stuff is out and key is back with her for the last few weeks. He stalked her and I when we went out with friends Thursday and she finally had enough and friday and told him she was going back to me(originally she told him she needed space and wanted to be single) and things went left.... saturday he kept blowing up her phone and she kept talking to him while we and a few friends were at an amusement park... he (pisces moon/libra sun)... keeps saying he's tired of his life, and hasn't eaten since she told him Friday. he asked if he could come by and see her yesterday to talk and if they could do homework together, why she said yes I don't know.... he then proceeds to come over and get drunk and stay over... and then called out of work today.... I told her he's not her problem. and it wasn't a good idea that she even invited him around. He's hurt because they've known each other so long and blah blah... She is doing this she feels guilty song and dance.

I read up on Pisces venus and I was like.... THIS... because the Aqua sun/Aries moon is making no sense. tolerance for this is zilch

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The constant need to convince her to be/do what is the most healthiest for her well being and future is going to grow into resentment at some point. And a resentful Sag is never pretty. That is partly on her and mostly on you.

You both need to fix it.

Posted by LadyNeptune

I don't think its only guilt.

Once she got with this guy you started to come around again, and show interest. Things she felt were lacking in the past, suddenly you are there attentive and caring and giving her all the things she wanted from you when she was exclusively yours. So I don't she will be letting him go anytime soon. He is the catalyst to her getting what she wants outta you.

And I'm sure it sweetens the pot a bit for her to know that you know she also has options. Your not the only one with a weekly rotation. She wants to make sure you know that he's on the bench hand in the air, put me in coach!

I wouldn't say she is the victim here being manipulated by him.

*like* Agree.

Posted by PuzzlePieces

You can’t get her to do anything she doesn’t want to do....

You need to let her learn. Your problem is you want things how you want them, and you want to make her fall in line. It’s not how it works....Sometimes people never learn… and sometimes they do. You just can’t make her.

*like* Agree with this too

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Posted by hellosaggy

lol. other than being emotionally unavailable I try to keep my toxicity down....

For this reason, I hope she keeps her options open. I really don’t think you have the best intentions for her.. no disrespect. You only want her because your possessive scorp Venus became engaged/obsessed when you learned that you had some competition and she became a challenge.

People get us Scorpio Venus's all wrong 😢

I'm a Sag with Scorpio Venus, and half the time I can't even tell if I'm in love, until I lose the person.

Scorpio is in detriment in Venus sign, so it take some pain to activate it.

Things were going fine in his relationship, as far as he was concerned, just going with the flow for 4 years- until he found out she was seeing this guy.

Weird, because I'm a Scorpio venus and I know right away if I like that person or not. Yet, I have it in rx and critical degree... 🤔

Are you sure it's not your Sag sun ? It sounds like something as Sag would say.

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You’re also an emotionally competent water sign, and already have it as your sun sign.

Sag Suns don’t wear their emotions or heart on their sleeves.

And I’m not talking about liking a person.

I’m talking about wanting a relationship with a person.

There’s a difference.

The combination of our sign sign and venus sign is what I’m talking about.

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lol. other than being emotionally unavailable I try to keep my toxicity down....

For this reason, I hope she keeps her options open. I really don’t think you have the best intentions for her.. no disrespect. You only want her because your possessive scorp Venus became engaged/obsessed when you learned that you had some competition and she became a challenge.

People get us Scorpio Venus's all wrong 😢

I'm a Sag with Scorpio Venus, and half the time I can't even tell if I'm in love, until I lose the person.

Scorpio is in detriment in Venus sign, so it take some pain to activate it.

Things were going fine in his relationship, as far as he was concerned, just going with the flow for 4 years- until he found out she was seeing this guy.

Weird, because I'm a Scorpio venus and I know right away if I like that person or not. Yet, I have it in rx and critical degree... 🤔

Are you sure it's not your Sag sun ? It sounds like something as Sag would say.

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LOL this @saggurl88 .... all I really know is I like/love/hate.... other than that depth doesn't really come into my mind.

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lol. other than being emotionally unavailable I try to keep my toxicity down....

For this reason, I hope she keeps her options open. I really don’t think you have the best intentions for her.. no disrespect. You only want her because your possessive scorp Venus became engaged/obsessed when you learned that you had some competition and she became a challenge.

People get us Scorpio Venus's all wrong 😢

I'm a Sag with Scorpio Venus, and half the time I can't even tell if I'm in love, until I lose the person.

Scorpio is in detriment in Venus sign, so it take some pain to activate it.

Things were going fine in his relationship, as far as he was concerned, just going with the flow for 4 years- until he found out she was seeing this guy.

Weird, because I'm a Scorpio venus and I know right away if I like that person or not. Yet, I have it in rx and critical degree... 🤔

Are you sure it's not your Sag sun ? It sounds like something as Sag would say.

LOL this @saggurl88 .... all I really know is I like/love/hate.... other than that depth doesn't really come into my mind.

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The combination is fine for me, but tough for our partners. Why can't they be happy going with the flow and our friendliness.

Especially your relationship. It was open, she had a girlfriend on the side, and she still wasn't happy with it.

Like DAMN!! Can a Sag catch a break??!!! 😛

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lol. other than being emotionally unavailable I try to keep my toxicity down....

For this reason, I hope she keeps her options open. I really don’t think you have the best intentions for her.. no disrespect. You only want her because your possessive scorp Venus became engaged/obsessed when you learned that you had some competition and she became a challenge.

People get us Scorpio Venus's all wrong 😢

I'm a Sag with Scorpio Venus, and half the time I can't even tell if I'm in love, until I lose the person.

Scorpio is in detriment in Venus sign, so it take some pain to activate it.

Things were going fine in his relationship, as far as he was concerned, just going with the flow for 4 years- until he found out she was seeing this guy.

Weird, because I'm a Scorpio venus and I know right away if I like that person or not. Yet, I have it in rx and critical degree... 🤔

Are you sure it's not your Sag sun ? It sounds like something as Sag would say.

LOL this @saggurl88 .... all I really know is I like/love/hate.... other than that depth doesn't really come into my mind.

The combination is fine for me, but tough for our partners. Why can't they be happy going with the flow and our friendliness.

Especially your relationship. It was open, she had a girlfriend on the side, and she still wasn't happy with it.

Like DAMN!! Can a Sag catch a break??!!! 😛

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yeah especially an aqua..... I misread the pisces venus! it snuck in from time to time.... they want romance and long term relationships... she was bipolar!

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Posted by hellosaggy

lol. other than being emotionally unavailable I try to keep my toxicity down....

For this reason, I hope she keeps her options open. I really don’t think you have the best intentions for her.. no disrespect. You only want her because your possessive scorp Venus became engaged/obsessed when you learned that you had some competition and she became a challenge.

People get us Scorpio Venus's all wrong 😢

I'm a Sag with Scorpio Venus, and half the time I can't even tell if I'm in love, until I lose the person.

Scorpio is in detriment in Venus sign, so it take some pain to activate it.

Things were going fine in his relationship, as far as he was concerned, just going with the flow for 4 years- until he found out she was seeing this guy.

Weird, because I'm a Scorpio venus and I know right away if I like that person or not. Yet, I have it in rx and critical degree... 🤔

Are you sure it's not your Sag sun ? It sounds like something as Sag would say.

LOL this @saggurl88 .... all I really know is I like/love/hate.... other than that depth doesn't really come into my mind.

The combination is fine for me, but tough for our partners. Why can't they be happy going with the flow and our friendliness.

Especially your relationship. It was open, she had a girlfriend on the side, and she still wasn't happy with it.

Like DAMN!! Can a Sag catch a break??!!! 😛

yeah especially an aqua..... I misread the pisces venus! it snuck in from time to time.... they want romance and long term relationships... she was bipolar!

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lol Bipolar is the word of the day! Just used it this morning! 😆

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How do you get a pisces venus to be more grounded and let go of toxic individuals in their lives?

Aarrggh!

I wish I knew the answer!

I'm Pisces Venus (but Cap Sun).

The thing I cannot understand about Pisces Venus is why its qualities differ depending on who owns it--a man or a woman. As a rule, it is nice and angelic in women's charts and awful and morbid in men's charts.