
Should they have to work and take care of patients without proper PPE to protect themselves and potentially bringing the virus home to their families?



Posted by CreativeCap
Coronavirus is an airborne disease, they should not be breathing the same air with the infected people. They should have a protective suit with an attached oxygen mask.

Posted by _DazedPosted by CreativeCap
Coronavirus is an airborne disease, they should not be breathing the same air with the infected people. They should have a protective suit with an attached oxygen mask.
It's not "airborne". It's droplet spread, but can be aerosolized. At least that's as far as we know.click to expand



Posted by LostinmyMind11
You forgot to mention how the healthcare workers have already been exposed and their families...anyone that walks out their door is being exposed...you don't abandon patients and people...you figure out something but you don't abandon them. That's pretty fucked in the head and disgusting to do that.
Same question, if these patients were kids...would you abandon them too?

Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11
You forgot to mention how the healthcare workers have already been exposed and their families...anyone that walks out their door is being exposed...you don't abandon patients and people...you figure out something but you don't abandon them. That's pretty fucked in the head and disgusting to do that.
Same question, if these patients were kids...would you abandon them too?
The job of the staff is to treat the patients. They are unable to do that if the administration isn't able to protect them.
If the administration is not able to protect them, they need to transfer the patients to a facility with the capability to do so.
You anger is directed at the wrong people.
The article you provided stated 34 of the 84 patients have C-19. If the staff has already been exposed as you say, coming in to care for the remaining 50 Covid-free patients puts those patients at risk. Do you want them to get sick and possibly die too?click to expand

Posted by LostinmyMind11Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11
You forgot to mention how the healthcare workers have already been exposed and their families...anyone that walks out their door is being exposed...you don't abandon patients and people...you figure out something but you don't abandon them. That's pretty fucked in the head and disgusting to do that.
Same question, if these patients were kids...would you abandon them too?
The job of the staff is to treat the patients. They are unable to do that if the administration isn't able to protect them.
If the administration is not able to protect them, they need to transfer the patients to a facility with the capability to do so.
You anger is directed at the wrong people.
The article you provided stated 34 of the 84 patients have C-19. If the staff has already been exposed as you say, coming in to care for the remaining 50 Covid-free patients puts those patients at risk. Do you want them to get sick and possibly die too?
I'm not going to argue with you about what's morally right and wrong. It's fucked and I don't give a shit what you or anyone else thinks. You made this thread to get your validation from your little click and to get a reaction from me. You got exactly what you wanted but only because I decided to engage in your bs. I clearly said...you don't abandon people...YOU FIGURE SOMETHING OUT but you don't just up and abandon them.click to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11
You forgot to mention how the healthcare workers have already been exposed and their families...anyone that walks out their door is being exposed...you don't abandon patients and people...you figure out something but you don't abandon them. That's pretty fucked in the head and disgusting to do that.
Same question, if these patients were kids...would you abandon them too?
The job of the staff is to treat the patients. They are unable to do that if the administration isn't able to protect them.
If the administration is not able to protect them, they need to transfer the patients to a facility with the capability to do so.
You anger is directed at the wrong people.
The article you provided stated 34 of the 84 patients have C-19. If the staff has already been exposed as you say, coming in to care for the remaining 50 Covid-free patients puts those patients at risk. Do you want them to get sick and possibly die too?
I'm not going to argue with you about what's morally right and wrong. It's fucked and I don't give a shit what you or anyone else thinks. You made this thread to get your validation from your little click and to get a reaction from me. You got exactly what you wanted but only because I decided to engage in your bs. I clearly said...you don't abandon people...YOU FIGURE SOMETHING OUT but you don't just up and abandon them.
You simply want to be mad at someone but you don't know enough about healthcare to know where to place the blame. It's not as simple as you want it to be which is why you decide not to argue when the reality is presented to you.
Don't be mad at me. Be mad at your unwillingness to educate yourself.click to expand

Posted by LaPetiteEtoile
The problem with labeling this a morality issue is that it if you approach it from that standpoint it will only kill more people faster.And there will be no one left to care for anyone.


Posted by LostinmyMind11Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11
You forgot to mention how the healthcare workers have already been exposed and their families...anyone that walks out their door is being exposed...you don't abandon patients and people...you figure out something but you don't abandon them. That's pretty fucked in the head and disgusting to do that.
Same question, if these patients were kids...would you abandon them too?
The job of the staff is to treat the patients. They are unable to do that if the administration isn't able to protect them.
If the administration is not able to protect them, they need to transfer the patients to a facility with the capability to do so.
You anger is directed at the wrong people.
The article you provided stated 34 of the 84 patients have C-19. If the staff has already been exposed as you say, coming in to care for the remaining 50 Covid-free patients puts those patients at risk. Do you want them to get sick and possibly die too?
I'm not going to argue with you about what's morally right and wrong. It's fucked and I don't give a shit what you or anyone else thinks. You made this thread to get your validation from your little click and to get a reaction from me. You got exactly what you wanted but only because I decided to engage in your bs. I clearly said...you don't abandon people...YOU FIGURE SOMETHING OUT but you don't just up and abandon them.
You simply want to be mad at someone but you don't know enough about healthcare to know where to place the blame. It's not as simple as you want it to be which is why you decide not to argue when the reality is presented to you.
Don't be mad at me. Be mad at your unwillingness to educate yourself.
Nah, but way to be a condensending asshole like always 👍click to expand


Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11
You forgot to mention how the healthcare workers have already been exposed and their families...anyone that walks out their door is being exposed...you don't abandon patients and people...you figure out something but you don't abandon them. That's pretty fucked in the head and disgusting to do that.
Same question, if these patients were kids...would you abandon them too?
The job of the staff is to treat the patients. They are unable to do that if the administration isn't able to protect them.
If the administration is not able to protect them, they need to transfer the patients to a facility with the capability to do so.
You anger is directed at the wrong people.
The article you provided stated 34 of the 84 patients have C-19. If the staff has already been exposed as you say, coming in to care for the remaining 50 Covid-free patients puts those patients at risk. Do you want them to get sick and possibly die too?
I'm not going to argue with you about what's morally right and wrong. It's fucked and I don't give a shit what you or anyone else thinks. You made this thread to get your validation from your little click and to get a reaction from me. You got exactly what you wanted but only because I decided to engage in your bs. I clearly said...you don't abandon people...YOU FIGURE SOMETHING OUT but you don't just up and abandon them.
You simply want to be mad at someone but you don't know enough about healthcare to know where to place the blame. It's not as simple as you want it to be which is why you decide not to argue when the reality is presented to you.
Don't be mad at me. Be mad at your unwillingness to educate yourself.
Nah, but way to be a condensending asshole like always 👍
"Not sure why you don't understand the concept"click to expand

Posted by LostinmyMind11Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11
You forgot to mention how the healthcare workers have already been exposed and their families...anyone that walks out their door is being exposed...you don't abandon patients and people...you figure out something but you don't abandon them. That's pretty fucked in the head and disgusting to do that.
Same question, if these patients were kids...would you abandon them too?
The job of the staff is to treat the patients. They are unable to do that if the administration isn't able to protect them.
If the administration is not able to protect them, they need to transfer the patients to a facility with the capability to do so.
You anger is directed at the wrong people.
The article you provided stated 34 of the 84 patients have C-19. If the staff has already been exposed as you say, coming in to care for the remaining 50 Covid-free patients puts those patients at risk. Do you want them to get sick and possibly die too?
I'm not going to argue with you about what's morally right and wrong. It's fucked and I don't give a shit what you or anyone else thinks. You made this thread to get your validation from your little click and to get a reaction from me. You got exactly what you wanted but only because I decided to engage in your bs. I clearly said...you don't abandon people...YOU FIGURE SOMETHING OUT but you don't just up and abandon them.
You simply want to be mad at someone but you don't know enough about healthcare to know where to place the blame. It's not as simple as you want it to be which is why you decide not to argue when the reality is presented to you.
Don't be mad at me. Be mad at your unwillingness to educate yourself.
Nah, but way to be a condensending asshole like always 👍
"Not sure why you don't understand the concept"
Wonder why I said that? Oh that's right...when you or whomever else were trying to explain and discredit me re the process of filing for unemployment in my state after telling you exactly how it is here...you know, since Ive literally been a part of the process.click to expand



Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11
You forgot to mention how the healthcare workers have already been exposed and their families...anyone that walks out their door is being exposed...you don't abandon patients and people...you figure out something but you don't abandon them. That's pretty fucked in the head and disgusting to do that.
Same question, if these patients were kids...would you abandon them too?
The job of the staff is to treat the patients. They are unable to do that if the administration isn't able to protect them.
If the administration is not able to protect them, they need to transfer the patients to a facility with the capability to do so.
You anger is directed at the wrong people.
The article you provided stated 34 of the 84 patients have C-19. If the staff has already been exposed as you say, coming in to care for the remaining 50 Covid-free patients puts those patients at risk. Do you want them to get sick and possibly die too?
I'm not going to argue with you about what's morally right and wrong. It's fucked and I don't give a shit what you or anyone else thinks. You made this thread to get your validation from your little click and to get a reaction from me. You got exactly what you wanted but only because I decided to engage in your bs. I clearly said...you don't abandon people...YOU FIGURE SOMETHING OUT but you don't just up and abandon them.
You simply want to be mad at someone but you don't know enough about healthcare to know where to place the blame. It's not as simple as you want it to be which is why you decide not to argue when the reality is presented to you.
Don't be mad at me. Be mad at your unwillingness to educate yourself.
Nah, but way to be a condensending asshole like always 👍
"Not sure why you don't understand the concept"
Wonder why I said that? Oh that's right...when you or whomever else were trying to explain and discredit me re the process of filing for unemployment in my state after telling you exactly how it is here...you know, since Ive literally been a part of the process.
https://i.redd.it/bqc4euoqv2g01.gif<div class="bqfade">click to expand

Posted by LaPetiteEtoilePosted by LostinmyMind11
I don't want to hear any of you bitch and complain when the staff walks out on your sick and dying grandparents, parents or heaven for bid your child/children. Not a single soul better say a word about it.
They wouldn’t be the ones I got mad at.click to expand

Posted by xy_sighPosted by LostinmyMind11
I don't want to hear any of you bitch and complain when the staff walks out on your sick and dying grandparents, parents or heaven for bid your child/children. Not a single soul better say a word about it.
Where is your frustration coming from?click to expand

Posted by xy_sighPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by xy_sighPosted by LostinmyMind11
I don't want to hear any of you bitch and complain when the staff walks out on your sick and dying grandparents, parents or heaven for bid your child/children. Not a single soul better say a word about it.
Where is your frustration coming from?
I'm far from frustrated...you just better be ok with it if healthcare workers walk out on your family that's in need.
I never said I agree.click to expand



Posted by akituPosted by LostinmyMind11
Now, I'm done debating my fucking morals on the subject.
When you start abandoning people, stop caring about others to save yourself...like you matter more than someone else...nah, that's fucked and we deserve everything that's came our way as humans.
We've seen how in the last decade only thinking about ourselves has played out...good luck on the future if that continues.
But so why don’t you care that healthcare workers have been abandoned to die by the people who were supposed to protect them? Just feels like your empathy only reaches so far?click to expand

Posted by LostinmyMind11
Now, I'm done debating my fucking morals on the subject.
When you start abandoning people, stop caring about others to save yourself...like you matter more than someone else...nah, that's fucked and we deserve everything that's came our way as humans.
We've seen how in the last decade only thinking about ourselves has played out...good luck on the future if that continues.


Posted by LostinmyMind11Posted by xy_sighPosted by LostinmyMind11
I don't want to hear any of you bitch and complain when the staff walks out on your sick and dying grandparents, parents or heaven for bid your child/children. Not a single soul better say a word about it.
Where is your frustration coming from?
I'm far from frustrated...you just better be ok with it if healthcare workers walk out on your family that's in need.click to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by xy_sighPosted by LostinmyMind11
I don't want to hear any of you bitch and complain when the staff walks out on your sick and dying grandparents, parents or heaven for bid your child/children. Not a single soul better say a word about it.
Where is your frustration coming from?
I'm far from frustrated...you just better be ok with it if healthcare workers walk out on your family that's in need.
You better be okay with there not being any healthcare workers left alive when your family's in need.click to expand

Posted by LostinmyMind11Posted by _DazedPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by xy_sighPosted by LostinmyMind11
I don't want to hear any of you bitch and complain when the staff walks out on your sick and dying grandparents, parents or heaven for bid your child/children. Not a single soul better say a word about it.
Where is your frustration coming from?
I'm far from frustrated...you just better be ok with it if healthcare workers walk out on your family that's in need.
You better be okay with there not being any healthcare workers left alive when your family's in need.
Ok dramatic. When was it said everyone is going to die from this virus? Oh...let me guess, you have the inside scope cause you're in health care 🙄.
And yes, I'm being condensending...taking a play out of your book 😉click to expand

Posted by akituPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by akituPosted by LostinmyMind11
Now, I'm done debating my fucking morals on the subject.
When you start abandoning people, stop caring about others to save yourself...like you matter more than someone else...nah, that's fucked and we deserve everything that's came our way as humans.
We've seen how in the last decade only thinking about ourselves has played out...good luck on the future if that continues.
But so why don’t you care that healthcare workers have been abandoned to die by the people who were supposed to protect them? Just feels like your empathy only reaches so far?
Maybe read everything I've said ...I blame the whole system but just because they have fucked over our healthcare workers doesn't mean you go ahead and do the same. This ain't tit for tat.
Not at all tit for tat. It doesn’t really make sense to have unprotected healthcare workers because all it does is add to the problem. We need them alive and healthy in order for them to be able to help anyone. And each cog needs to turn for the system to function. I don’t know what you’ve said you’re referring to. Maybe you’ve been backed into a corner with this argument over hypotheticals, because it doesn’t really seem like you’d be the type of person who would want anyone to die where there was an option for them not to. I’m assuming we both believe the ideal situation is for there to be people in a position to help other people. And obviously the dead can’t help anyone.click to expand


Posted by FantomPosted by LostinmyMind11
I don't want to hear any of you bitch and complain when the staff walks out on your sick and dying grandparents, parents or heaven for bid your child/children. Not a single soul better say a word about it.
Did someone threaten to do that? What the hell?click to expand



Posted by _Dazed
Should they have to work and take care of patients without proper PPE to protect themselves and potentially bringing the virus home to their families?

Posted by 40Caliber
I'd still work the job but would come up with creative solutions to my PPE issues.
As a Doctor, I took an oath.


Posted by EndlessPosted by 40Caliber
I'd still work the job but would come up with creative solutions to my PPE issues.
As a Doctor, I took an oath.
this 😁, this is the mindset I don't understand.
commendable, but in such a self-detrimental way.
I would had never take the oath.click to expand

Posted by sagaciouscorpPosted by EndlessPosted by 40Caliber
I'd still work the job but would come up with creative solutions to my PPE issues.
As a Doctor, I took an oath.
this 😁, this is the mindset I don't understand.
commendable, but in such a self-detrimental way.
I would had never take the oath.
He’s in a lab easy to say than when actually faced with your own death n possible familyclick to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by EndlessPosted by 40Caliber
I'd still work the job but would come up with creative solutions to my PPE issues.
As a Doctor, I took an oath.
this 😁, this is the mindset I don't understand.
commendable, but in such a self-detrimental way.
I would had never take the oath.
I don't know one single physician that would walk into a room without PROPER PPE for patients with TB, Measles, SARS, Varicella, C.diff, MRSA, etc., oath or not.click to expand

Posted by EndlessPosted by _DazedPosted by EndlessPosted by 40Caliber
I'd still work the job but would come up with creative solutions to my PPE issues.
As a Doctor, I took an oath.
this 😁, this is the mindset I don't understand.
commendable, but in such a self-detrimental way.
I would had never take the oath.
I don't know one single physician that would walk into a room without PROPER PPE for patients with TB, Measles, SARS, Varicella, C.diff, MRSA, etc., oath or not.
well I presumed he's exaggerating 😂 but the idea stand, a lot of health workers do wish they could treat their patients by any means necessary, many times affecting their own health, ofc that usually means overworking, bad eating habits and so on.
thankfully they know they can't just expose themselves to very contagious diseases, I mean I wouldn't care if they get infected for their own stupidity, but they will spread them all over too.
wouldn't ask then to do it either, not even for my family.click to expand
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