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Posted by ExplicitYeeep.
And to think... People like that are authority figures at jobs. *facepalm*
If I had a manager who came to me to ask who they should hire, I'd be like wtf are they paying you more for?? Why am I doing your job for you??
Posted by littlenanobyteAlways. I have a few at work who are like that. Two of which were coworkers from a previous job too haha.
One time I did really bond with a Pisces girl at a job I worked at in Washington for tech support. I really really liked her and damn, that job was rough, so it was nice to have a good friend to vent to during break.
Posted by ExplicitI said "if."Posted by rockyroadicecreamPosted by ExplicitYeeep.
And to think... People like that are authority figures at jobs. *facepalm*
If I had a manager who came to me to ask who they should hire, I'd be like wtf are they paying you more for?? Why am I doing your job for you??
Pathetic. What a lame excuse for a manager.click to expand
None of mine have done that. I don't see why they'd have to. Our training process weeds out people like whoa. They either get canned within a few months because they suck and make a shit ton of mistakes, or they weed themselves out and quit within a few months.
We do still have some where you wonder how the hell they still manage to hold a job, but it's just a matter of time. We have a Leo boss and he gives people a lot of chances before he fires them. ...a LOT. If you're getting fired, you're a fuck up haha.
Posted by rockyroadicecream
"Both were equally qualified."
Considering the source ..... the likely truth is that RancidRaccoon here was the one turned down because she cannot get along with the other employees .... so, she did her normal shit, which is to turn it around and make it sound like they were in the wrong for her being so fucked up that her equal qualifications cannot even land her the job.
Posted by rockyroadicecreamAww.Posted by MontgomeryBitch please. First off, fuck off?Posted by rockyroadicecream
... "lol the girls thought you were great, they could gab with you all day ...
"So sorry, but the job went to the other candidate. The girls didn't have much in common with you...
... they left it up to you, a bunch of women who work in an office environment...
...but work isn't social hour, ffs.
Some employers value the opinion of their employees.
How a person fits in with a team's dynamic can have a major effect on productivity--
which you mentioned... and you would know that, working with (and bitching about)
'... a bunch of women' yourself.
Reducing people you don't know to "the girls"-- wtf Rocky, you sound like the two old farts
I work with who are costing us money hand over fist with their archaic Ways of Olde.
Gross.
Second, I'm not against employee feedback. I work for a company who highly values employee feedback.
It's WHAT this specific employer saw as "feedback," ex: some really trivial and basic socialization. You cannot base a choice off of a one time social interaction with your employees. How many times have you met someone who you got along with just fine initially, but in the long run, didn't?
Employee feedback is one thing, honey, but this fits more in the realm of a high school mentality and including employees in the hiring process, in THIS specific manner, is just poor management. It shouldn't be the employees who decide who gets hired. If the higher ups can't make those decisions themselves, then why the hell are they a higher up, you know?
I'd get it more if it was after hiring said individual and then after a few days of working, they ask employees how new hire is doing/what they think.
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Right back at you, and your one dimensional perception,
Rocko.
I can see why you bristle at the idea of a harmonious
workplace-- there simply isn't enough room for your
opinions.
In my field it's all about personality. I hire who I like and think will work with my teams dynamics, it's why we have a low turnover rate and a high success rate. Obviously you need qualifications but I have hired the one with less experience because I liked him or her.
Posted by rockyroadicecreamSag problems!Posted by brianafayPosted by Feral_doePosted by brianafayI work with designers and architects as clients. Boy, these guys are a pain in the ass.
Idk I think it's important someone's personality is a good fit...obviously it shouldn't be the main deciding factor but it should be a factor I think.
For example... I'm in design so naturally I work with all women and all A type personalities (typical of this career)... They hired this lady after me that was really timid and sweet and it just did not fucking work. She cried almost everyday. I wish for her sake they would have considered her personality difference before hiring her.
Not that she wasn't qualified or was bad at her job,It just wasn't a good fit
Even though I studied design myself, I'm so glad I went another way. I'd have ended up even more of a stuck up bitch than I already am lol
They make the worst clients.
shoot me.
Lol yeah I've been told by vendors they love working with me because I am so easy going compared to others but I have my moments too. I'm easy till I'm not
Hehe easy
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Posted by GetMistedPosted by SassyKiwiShe works at Applebee's. What did you expect?Posted by rockyroadicecreamPosted by The_eleventh_sign_11lol. That's what brings everyone closer together- "this place sucks so let's band together!" haha.
I completely agree that an employee should have the work eithic and qualifications for the job, I also think its a requirement that you get along as well on a professional level and have interpersonal skills with co workers, its about developing a work culture these days, a good work environment is so important for businesses to thrive, you can see why we are getting replaced by machines lol....all it takes is one nasty cunt to ruin your day or your whole life....
I never take it personally id rather be paired with a business that im compatable with anyway..
One of my current jobs is the local pub and I really dont like it, I told myself id never work anywhere with poker machines again but the staff I work with are lovely and I hug everyone when I come to work and call them darl and babe and this pub is listed 3rd worst bar in NSW.
Like I've said, I agree with the focus on workplace dynamics and having everyone get along. It makes or breaks productivity in some places. But something else I thought of- if management is doing this, it gives off the impression that they're incapable of making their own choices and taking on the leadership role in deciding who gets hired based on their qualifications.
This approach just reminds me a lot of a sorority or some shit though. :/
(cue valley girl tone) "Like, omg guise, I just can't decide on who to let in! Both are a good fit here, but it's just soo hard to decide. Help me, kay??"
"Omg, I like A because she's pretty and we can talk about makeup all day!"
"Yeah, mee tooo! B is just weird and didn't talk to me much. She's not so easy to talk to. I don't like her!"
"Okay, we'll let in A then!"
(A ends up being a troll haha and B ends up kicking ass in another sorority).
Just.. whatever. I'd think there are better ways of going about this. I thought that's what 90 day probationary periods were for, you know?
It's also interesting seeing the feedback here. It's a little 50/50 on this concept.
Uhm wtf kind of people are you surrounded by. Sounds like they've got pretty low salaries.
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O my. Do you know what state she's in?
@deadpoop you still owe me a date let's go visit rocky
Posted by starwars
you mentioned that they were equally qualified. if that's the case then the manager made a smart move and took the chance to make his employees feel important.
one of the keys for success is to empower employees by getting them involved in the process.
if not, them coming to an agreement and an unanimous decision, tells me that they are good at team work.
hiring someone that'll be nothing but an outsider, may create tension. you don't want that to happen.
"Her." Which explains why this tactic was used. Two female managers who weren't capable of making an executive decision.
I don't know why anyone would want their employees involved in the hiring process like that since it can create a hostile work environment too. Especially if it's female dominated. You know it won't always be unanimous and if there are individuals who didn't agree to the new employee being hired, which will lead to a lot of potential hostility and a negative work environment. Where's this dynamic now?
Many seem to be forgetting that this concept of "making the employees feel included/important" is similar to giving a small child too many choices. There are other ways to make employees feel included or important, and the hiring process isn't one, tbh. Feedback in how the new hire is doing? Sure. My managers do it all the time with us. But deciding on who gets hired? lol no. You start to face the problem of blurred lines between boss and employee and they take it and run.
The hiring process just seems like handing over way too much power to the employees
Posted by TaurusinTexasYeah, but YOU made the decision.
In my field it's all about personality. I hire who I like and think will work with my teams dynamics, it's why we have a low turnover rate and a high success rate. Obviously you need qualifications but I have hired the one with less experience because I liked him or her.click to expand
Posted by brianafayBwahahaPosted by rockyroadicecreamSag problems!Posted by brianafayPosted by Feral_doePosted by brianafayI work with designers and architects as clients. Boy, these guys are a pain in the ass.
Idk I think it's important someone's personality is a good fit...obviously it shouldn't be the main deciding factor but it should be a factor I think.
For example... I'm in design so naturally I work with all women and all A type personalities (typical of this career)... They hired this lady after me that was really timid and sweet and it just did not fucking work. She cried almost everyday. I wish for her sake they would have considered her personality difference before hiring her.
Not that she wasn't qualified or was bad at her job,It just wasn't a good fit
Even though I studied design myself, I'm so glad I went another way. I'd have ended up even more of a stuck up bitch than I already am lol
They make the worst clients.
shoot me.
Lol yeah I've been told by vendors they love working with me because I am so easy going compared to others but I have my moments too. I'm easy till I'm not
Hehe easy
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