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She sounds like a brat

Try and ignore her for at least ......................... the rest of your life

I've a feeling the Sag bloke may bring her some well earned karma. Those guys aren't always the most faithful

The lioness may be in for a fall


Now she's a brat... when I messed up half way through. In the beginning she was an angel... you should read the question I answered to why I fell for her.
Where do I read that. How do you think you messed up?

You are a Libra?


Wondering the same.

He doesn't want to get her 'in trouble' by saying it all! I think.
I'm trying to get perspective of what other people think I should do action wise and what might happen in the future ect. Also I wanted to know what effect might occur that now I'm ignoring her since we spoke everyday for the past 2 years.

I'm going from speaking to her every single day, and the last eight months since I turn into a puppy dog I would even blow up her phone begging her to call me -- i'm going from that and I'm doing a complete 180 to out right just ignoring her calls and texts for a few days to maybe a week perhaps even two weeks


See? You are very protective of her!

It's admirable but do you see it yourself - what are you getting yourself into?

I wish I knew what is she doing NOW while being ignored?

What do YOU think?


Yes I am protective of her because regardless of what she or I did, she is the love of my life. And I told her that I forgave her for what she did as long as we moved forward ect.
You go between you screwed up but you forgave her for what she did.

So you are not going to come to peace until you will decide on screw ups and cause of it.

Can you drive up to her place and see if she is crying or having a wild party?

But then you probably going to say that her way of mourning your departure from her life.

I see it as no good at all. Open your eyes!


I'm gonna come to peace after ignoring her,

A.) she will change cause I randomly disappeared and she will beg me to come back and if she changes I'll stick around



B.) I'll bounce after a week or so of no conf
I wish you strength from the bottom of my heart! Best of luck and lots of love.


Thank you son much friend! I say this that i think your advice was on of the most helpful.

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Of course it was, she didn't challenge you on your behaviour

Good luck
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She sounds like a brat

Try and ignore her for at least ......................... the rest of your life

I've a feeling the Sag bloke may bring her some well earned karma. Those guys aren't always the most faithful

The lioness may be in for a fall


Now she's a brat... when I messed up half way through. In the beginning she was an angel... you should read the question I answered to why I fell for her.
Where do I read that. How do you think you messed up?

You are a Libra?


Wondering the same.

He doesn't want to get her 'in trouble' by saying it all! I think.
I'm trying to get perspective of what other people think I should do action wise and what might happen in the future ect. Also I wanted to know what effect might occur that now I'm ignoring her since we spoke everyday for the past 2 years.

I'm going from speaking to her every single day, and the last eight months since I turn into a puppy dog I would even blow up her phone begging her to call me -- i'm going from that and I'm doing a complete 180 to out right just ignoring her calls and texts for a few days to maybe a week perhaps even two weeks


See? You are very protective of her!

It's admirable but do you see it yourself - what are you getting yourself into?

I wish I knew what is she doing NOW while being ignored?

What do YOU think?


Yes I am protective of her because regardless of what she or I did, she is the love of my life. And I told her that I forgave her for what she did as long as we moved forward ect.
You go between you screwed up but you forgave her for what she did.

So you are not going to come to peace until you will decide on screw ups and cause of it.

Can you drive up to her place and see if she is crying or having a wild party?

But then you probably going to say that her way of mourning your departure from her life.

I see it as no good at all. Open your eyes!


I'm gonna come to peace after ignoring her,

A.) she will change cause I randomly disappeared and she will beg me to come back and if she changes I'll stick around



B.) I'll bounce after a week or so of no conf
I wish you strength from the bottom of my heart! Best of luck and lots of love.


Thank you son much friend! I say this that i think your advice was on of the most helpful.




Of course it was, she didn't challenge you on your behaviour

Good luck

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Who didn't challenge me on my behavior?
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She sounds like a brat

Try and ignore her for at least ......................... the rest of your life

I've a feeling the Sag bloke may bring her some well earned karma. Those guys aren't always the most faithful

The lioness may be in for a fall


Now she's a brat... when I messed up half way through. In the beginning she was an angel... you should read the question I answered to why I fell for her.
Where do I read that. How do you think you messed up?

You are a Libra?


How did I mess up? Well while she was a sweetheart to me, she was gonna get rid of her ex. Like forever...... and my ass had no patience.

I went from being the man she fell in love with to an impatience insecure jerk-off who was very controlling. And then I went another step further becoming very emotionally and physically abusive.

Thus plunging her right back into her exes arms... and we are here today.


I can see why she ran more to her ex when you started abusing her. just let her go now




Well I am her go if she doesn't change. Like i said that was 8 months ago and I'm not the same anymore and I've lost all value and respect in her eyes...

But I'm an doing this one last thing which is to disappear to see what can be salvaged. And id like all of your support before fingers start being pointed.


leos are generally forgiving to a fault, so it may work out. I think she didn't deserve the abuse though. she also was not clearly over her ex, she's conflicted over her feelings. I think her ex is stringing her along and when a leo falls hard, she will have a hard time letting go of a person. her ex is a sag and sags rarely look back at the past, if the sag leaves he will not likely get back together with her. you on the otherhand would do anything to keep her. it may make sense to her, to run to her ex

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So what do you think I should—?? I need advice like this.

And currently im ignoring her and working on myself. I won't be picking up her phone calls or anything at all for a week or maybe 2-3 weeks.



She needs to see how life is without "the love of her life" because she claims she loves me more than anything.
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I already did when I became the puppy dog begging her crying to her and texting her and calling her every single day blowing up her phone.

The thing is the relationship is a 2 Way street and I want us both to change not just myself.

My behavior the past eight months was very weak. To prove that I'm always going to be chasing her that I'm never going to give up and then I simply became an annoyance and something that you have to report to every single time she spoke to me.

Every since I started blowing up her phone texting her calling her back and her getting to her my value has dropped her respect for me has completely been obliterated and she doesn't know my worth anymore.

She takes me for granted and it hurts a lot....

I remember you... and I'm gonna say...

You sound just like my ex ugh. My ex abused me for 8 years. When the beatings stopped it progressed to verbal and mental abuse.

I'm going to tell you what I told my ex...get help first. 8 months is NOT a reasonable amount of time to change your abusive tendencies. You need help and should seek to change first before you try to get with her.

I honestly, no matter how much I would like to go back, will I go back to my ex and feel safe. Like someone else said, you tainted the relationship. Once you do that, there is no going back. I like to compare relationships to a rag. Most rags will have a few marks on them and might be off white. But then there are those that no matter how much bleach you use, it still shows signs of wear and taint.

Your relationship is marked for the rest of your life. Move on. Stop being a stubborn Aries and let her go. She's cheated and you've beaten her. What kind of relationship do you hope to achieve?
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Damn did you even read the entire thing? She didn't leave her boyfriend when she was with me! And no at this point I'm a puppy dog, you know what a puppy dog is?
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I already did when I became the puppy dog begging her crying to her and texting her and calling her every single day blowing up her phone.

The thing is the relationship is a 2 Way street and I want us both to change not just myself.

My behavior the past eight months was very weak. To prove that I'm always going to be chasing her that I'm never going to give up and then I simply became an annoyance and something that you have to report to every single time she spoke to me.

Every since I started blowing up her phone texting her calling her back and her getting to her my value has dropped her respect for me has completely been obliterated and she doesn't know my worth anymore.

She takes me for granted and it hurts a lot....

I remember you... and I'm gonna say...

You sound just like my ex ugh. My ex abused me for 8 years. When the beatings stopped it progressed to verbal and mental abuse.

I'm going to tell you what I told my ex...get help first. 8 months is NOT a reasonable amount of time to change your abusive tendencies. You need help and should seek to change first before you try to get with her.

I honestly, no matter how much I would like to go back, will I go back to my ex and feel safe. Like someone else said, you tainted the relationship. Once you do that, there is no going back. I like to compare relationships to a rag. Most rags will have a few marks on them and might be off white. But then there are those that no matter how much bleach you use, it still shows signs of wear and taint.

Your relationship is marked for the rest of your life. Move on. Stop being a stubborn Aries and let her go. She's cheated and you've beaten her. What kind of relationship do you hope to achieve?


Damn did you even read the entire thing? She didn't leave her boyfriend when she was with me! And no at this point I'm a puppy dog, you know what a puppy dog is?

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She sounds like a brat

Try and ignore her for at least ......................... the rest of your life

I've a feeling the Sag bloke may bring her some well earned karma. Those guys aren't always the most faithful

The lioness may be in for a fall


Now she's a brat... when I messed up half way through. In the beginning she was an angel... you should read the question I answered to why I fell for her.
Where do I read that. How do you think you messed up?

You are a Libra?


Wondering the same.

He doesn't want to get her 'in trouble' by saying it all! I think.
I'm trying to get perspective of what other people think I should do action wise and what might happen in the future ect. Also I wanted to know what effect might occur that now I'm ignoring her since we spoke everyday for the past 2 years.

I'm going from speaking to her every single day, and the last eight months since I turn into a puppy dog I would even blow up her phone begging her to call me -- i'm going from that and I'm doing a complete 180 to out right just ignoring her calls and texts for a few days to maybe a week perhaps even two weeks


See? You are very protective of her!

It's admirable but do you see it yourself - what are you getting yourself into?

I wish I knew what is she doing NOW while being ignored?

What do YOU think?


Yes I am protective of her because regardless of what she or I did, she is the love of my life. And I told her that I forgave her for what she did as long as we moved forward ect.
You go between you screwed up but you forgave her for what she did.

So you are not going to come to peace until you will decide on screw ups and cause of it.

Can you drive up to her place and see if she is crying or having a wild party?

But then you probably going to say that her way of mourning your departure from her life.

I see it as no good at all. Open your eyes!


I'm gonna come to peace after ignoring her,

A.) she will change cause I randomly disappeared and she will beg me to come back and if she changes I'll stick around



B.) I'll bounce after a week or so of no conf


Mark, you keep mentioning her changing......are you going to take this opportunity to look at your behavior and try to work out why you let yourself abuse the woman you love ?

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Who? Mark abused her—

I am missing everything—
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She sounds like a brat

Try and ignore her for at least ......................... the rest of your life

I've a feeling the Sag bloke may bring her some well earned karma. Those guys aren't always the most faithful

The lioness may be in for a fall


Now she's a brat... when I messed up half way through. In the beginning she was an angel... you should read the question I answered to why I fell for her.
Where do I read that. How do you think you messed up?

You are a Libra?


Wondering the same.

He doesn't want to get her 'in trouble' by saying it all! I think.
I'm trying to get perspective of what other people think I should do action wise and what might happen in the future ect. Also I wanted to know what effect might occur that now I'm ignoring her since we spoke everyday for the past 2 years.

I'm going from speaking to her every single day, and the last eight months since I turn into a puppy dog I would even blow up her phone begging her to call me -- i'm going from that and I'm doing a complete 180 to out right just ignoring her calls and texts for a few days to maybe a week perhaps even two weeks


See? You are very protective of her!

It's admirable but do you see it yourself - what are you getting yourself into?

I wish I knew what is she doing NOW while being ignored?

What do YOU think?


Yes I am protective of her because regardless of what she or I did, she is the love of my life. And I told her that I forgave her for what she did as long as we moved forward ect.
You go between you screwed up but you forgave her for what she did.

So you are not going to come to peace until you will decide on screw ups and cause of it.

Can you drive up to her place and see if she is crying or having a wild party?

But then you probably going to say that her way of mourning your departure from her life.

I see it as no good at all. Open your eyes!


I'm gonna come to peace after ignoring her,

A.) she will change cause I randomly disappeared and she will beg me to come back and if she changes I'll stick around



B.) I'll bounce after a week or so of no conf


Mark, you keep mentioning her changing......are you going to take this opportunity to look at your behavior and try to work out why you let yourself abuse the woman you love ?


Who? Mark abused her—

I am missing everything—
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""I went from being the man she fell in love with to an impatience insecure jerk-off who was very controlling. And then I went another step further becoming very emotionally and physically abusive""
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She sounds like a brat

Try and ignore her for at least ......................... the rest of your life

I've a feeling the Sag bloke may bring her some well earned karma. Those guys aren't always the most faithful

The lioness may be in for a fall


Now she's a brat... when I messed up half way through. In the beginning she was an angel... you should read the question I answered to why I fell for her.
Where do I read that. How do you think you messed up?

You are a Libra?


Wondering the same.

He doesn't want to get her 'in trouble' by saying it all! I think.
I'm trying to get perspective of what other people think I should do action wise and what might happen in the future ect. Also I wanted to know what effect might occur that now I'm ignoring her since we spoke everyday for the past 2 years.

I'm going from speaking to her every single day, and the last eight months since I turn into a puppy dog I would even blow up her phone begging her to call me -- i'm going from that and I'm doing a complete 180 to out right just ignoring her calls and texts for a few days to maybe a week perhaps even two weeks


See? You are very protective of her!

It's admirable but do you see it yourself - what are you getting yourself into?

I wish I knew what is she doing NOW while being ignored?

What do YOU think?


Yes I am protective of her because regardless of what she or I did, she is the love of my life. And I told her that I forgave her for what she did as long as we moved forward ect.
You go between you screwed up but you forgave her for what she did.

So you are not going to come to peace until you will decide on screw ups and cause of it.

Can you drive up to her place and see if she is crying or having a wild party?

But then you probably going to say that her way of mourning your departure from her life.

I see it as no good at all. Open your eyes!


I'm gonna come to peace after ignoring her,

A.) she will change cause I randomly disappeared and she will beg me to come back and if she changes I'll stick around



B.) I'll bounce after a week or so of no conf


Mark, you keep mentioning her changing......are you going to take this opportunity to look at your behavior and try to work out why you let yourself abuse the woman you love ?


Who? Mark abused her—

I am missing everything—


""I went from being the man she fell in love with to an impatience insecure jerk-off who was very controlling. And then I went another step further becoming very emotionally and physically abusive""

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I told her a few days back that we are both at fault and that I just simply wanted us to move forward and I no longer want to be lied to. I also told her that talk is cheap that if she loves me more than anything and that if she wants the future of having the kids in the home then she should prove by actions not by words



Because her actions keep showing that she keeps her ex-boyfriend around in fact she even meet him every single weekend and that really hurts my feelings because I stayed completely faithful to her ....
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She sounds like a brat

Try and ignore her for at least ......................... the rest of your life

I've a feeling the Sag bloke may bring her some well earned karma. Those guys aren't always the most faithful

The lioness may be in for a fall


Now she's a brat... when I messed up half way through. In the beginning she was an angel... you should read the question I answered to why I fell for her.
Where do I read that. How do you think you messed up?

You are a Libra?


Wondering the same.

He doesn't want to get her 'in trouble' by saying it all! I think.
I'm trying to get perspective of what other people think I should do action wise and what might happen in the future ect. Also I wanted to know what effect might occur that now I'm ignoring her since we spoke everyday for the past 2 years.

I'm going from speaking to her every single day, and the last eight months since I turn into a puppy dog I would even blow up her phone begging her to call me -- i'm going from that and I'm doing a complete 180 to out right just ignoring her calls and texts for a few days to maybe a week perhaps even two weeks


See? You are very protective of her!

It's admirable but do you see it yourself - what are you getting yourself into?

I wish I knew what is she doing NOW while being ignored?

What do YOU think?


Yes I am protective of her because regardless of what she or I did, she is the love of my life. And I told her that I forgave her for what she did as long as we moved forward ect.
You go between you screwed up but you forgave her for what she did.

So you are not going to come to peace until you will decide on screw ups and cause of it.

Can you drive up to her place and see if she is crying or having a wild party?

But then you probably going to say that her way of mourning your departure from her life.

I see it as no good at all. Open your eyes!


I'm gonna come to peace after ignoring her,

A.) she will change cause I randomly disappeared and she will beg me to come back and if she changes I'll stick around



B.) I'll bounce after a week or so of no conf


Mark, you keep mentioning her changing......are you going to take this opportunity to look at your behavior and try to work out why you let yourself abuse the woman you love ?


Who? Mark abused her—

I am missing everything—


""I went from being the man she fell in love with to an impatience insecure jerk-off who was very controlling. And then I went another step further becoming very emotionally and physically abusive""

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THAT woman is lucky!!!

From fairy tale to hell? Wondering how much that trip cost her...

I hope she is drunk tonight dancing on a table saying good byes to all the 'good' men in her life!

Geepers! Wow! Shit!
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She sounds like a brat

Try and ignore her for at least ......................... the rest of your life

I've a feeling the Sag bloke may bring her some well earned karma. Those guys aren't always the most faithful

The lioness may be in for a fall


Now she's a brat... when I messed up half way through. In the beginning she was an angel... you should read the question I answered to why I fell for her.
Where do I read that. How do you think you messed up?

You are a Libra?


Wondering the same.

He doesn't want to get her 'in trouble' by saying it all! I think.
I'm trying to get perspective of what other people think I should do action wise and what might happen in the future ect. Also I wanted to know what effect might occur that now I'm ignoring her since we spoke everyday for the past 2 years.

I'm going from speaking to her every single day, and the last eight months since I turn into a puppy dog I would even blow up her phone begging her to call me -- i'm going from that and I'm doing a complete 180 to out right just ignoring her calls and texts for a few days to maybe a week perhaps even two weeks


See? You are very protective of her!

It's admirable but do you see it yourself - what are you getting yourself into?

I wish I knew what is she doing NOW while being ignored?

What do YOU think?


Yes I am protective of her because regardless of what she or I did, she is the love of my life. And I told her that I forgave her for what she did as long as we moved forward ect.
You go between you screwed up but you forgave her for what she did.

So you are not going to come to peace until you will decide on screw ups and cause of it.

Can you drive up to her place and see if she is crying or having a wild party?

But then you probably going to say that her way of mourning your departure from her life.

I see it as no good at all. Open your eyes!


I'm gonna come to peace after ignoring her,

A.) she will change cause I randomly disappeared and she will beg me to come back and if she changes I'll stick around



B.) I'll bounce after a week or so of no conf


Mark, you keep mentioning her changing......are you going to take this opportunity to look at your behavior and try to work out why you let yourself abuse the woman you love ?


Who? Mark abused her—

I am missing everything—


""I went from being the man she fell in love with to an impatience insecure jerk-off who was very controlling. And then I went another step further becoming very emotionally and physically abusive""




I told her a few days back that we are both at fault and that I just simply wanted us to move forward and I no longer want to be lied to. I also told her that talk is cheap that if she loves me more than anything and that if she wants the future of having the kids in the home then she should prove by actions not by words



Because her actions keep showing that she keeps her ex-boyfriend around in fact she even meet him every single weekend and that really hurts my feelings because I stayed completely faithful to her ....

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Being faithful is good but it doesn't discount the fact that you abused her

Did you return the car yet....or offer to?

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She sounds like a brat

Try and ignore her for at least ......................... the rest of your life

I've a feeling the Sag bloke may bring her some well earned karma. Those guys aren't always the most faithful

The lioness may be in for a fall


Now she's a brat... when I messed up half way through. In the beginning she was an angel... you should read the question I answered to why I fell for her.
Where do I read that. How do you think you messed up?

You are a Libra?


Wondering the same.

He doesn't want to get her 'in trouble' by saying it all! I think.
I'm trying to get perspective of what other people think I should do action wise and what might happen in the future ect. Also I wanted to know what effect might occur that now I'm ignoring her since we spoke everyday for the past 2 years.

I'm going from speaking to her every single day, and the last eight months since I turn into a puppy dog I would even blow up her phone begging her to call me -- i'm going from that and I'm doing a complete 180 to out right just ignoring her calls and texts for a few days to maybe a week perhaps even two weeks


See? You are very protective of her!

It's admirable but do you see it yourself - what are you getting yourself into?

I wish I knew what is she doing NOW while being ignored?

What do YOU think?


Yes I am protective of her because regardless of what she or I did, she is the love of my life. And I told her that I forgave her for what she did as long as we moved forward ect.
You go between you screwed up but you forgave her for what she did.

So you are not going to come to peace until you will decide on screw ups and cause of it.

Can you drive up to her place and see if she is crying or having a wild party?

But then you probably going to say that her way of mourning your departure from her life.

I see it as no good at all. Open your eyes!


I'm gonna come to peace after ignoring her,

A.) she will change cause I randomly disappeared and she will beg me to come back and if she changes I'll stick around



B.) I'll bounce after a week or so of no conf


Mark, you keep mentioning her changing......are you going to take this opportunity to look at your behavior and try to work out why you let yourself abuse the woman you love ?


Who? Mark abused her—

I am missing everything—


""I went from being the man she fell in love with to an impatience insecure jerk-off who was very controlling. And then I went another step further becoming very emotionally and physically abusive""




I told her a few days back that we are both at fault and that I just simply wanted us to move forward and I no longer want to be lied to. I also told her that talk is cheap that if she loves me more than anything and that if she wants the future of having the kids in the home then she should prove by actions not by words



Because her actions keep showing that she keeps her ex-boyfriend around in fact she even meet him every single weekend and that really hurts my feelings because I stayed completely faithful to her ....


Being faithful is good but it doesn't discount the fact that you abused her

Did you return the car yet....or offer to?

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She said it was meant for me. Last I checked she still wanted to move forward and I'm asking people advice on how to move forward with her not without her.

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She sounds like a brat

Try and ignore her for at least ......................... the rest of your life

I've a feeling the Sag bloke may bring her some well earned karma. Those guys aren't always the most faithful

The lioness may be in for a fall


Now she's a brat... when I messed up half way through. In the beginning she was an angel... you should read the question I answered to why I fell for her.
Where do I read that. How do you think you messed up?

You are a Libra?


Wondering the same.

He doesn't want to get her 'in trouble' by saying it all! I think.
I'm trying to get perspective of what other people think I should do action wise and what might happen in the future ect. Also I wanted to know what effect might occur that now I'm ignoring her since we spoke everyday for the past 2 years.

I'm going from speaking to her every single day, and the last eight months since I turn into a puppy dog I would even blow up her phone begging her to call me -- i'm going from that and I'm doing a complete 180 to out right just ignoring her calls and texts for a few days to maybe a week perhaps even two weeks


See? You are very protective of her!

It's admirable but do you see it yourself - what are you getting yourself into?

I wish I knew what is she doing NOW while being ignored?

What do YOU think?


Yes I am protective of her because regardless of what she or I did, she is the love of my life. And I told her that I forgave her for what she did as long as we moved forward ect.
You go between you screwed up but you forgave her for what she did.

So you are not going to come to peace until you will decide on screw ups and cause of it.

Can you drive up to her place and see if she is crying or having a wild party?

But then you probably going to say that her way of mourning your departure from her life.

I see it as no good at all. Open your eyes!


I'm gonna come to peace after ignoring her,

A.) she will change cause I randomly disappeared and she will beg me to come back and if she changes I'll stick around



B.) I'll bounce after a week or so of no conf


Mark, you keep mentioning her changing......are you going to take this opportunity to look at your behavior and try to work out why you let yourself abuse the woman you love ?


Who? Mark abused her—

I am missing everything—


""I went from being the man she fell in love with to an impatience insecure jerk-off who was very controlling. And then I went another step further becoming very emotionally and physically abusive""




I told her a few days back that we are both at fault and that I just simply wanted us to move forward and I no longer want to be lied to. I also told her that talk is cheap that if she loves me more than anything and that if she wants the future of having the kids in the home then she should prove by actions not by words



Because her actions keep showing that she keeps her ex-boyfriend around in fact she even meet him every single weekend and that really hurts my feelings because I stayed completely faithful to her ....


Being faithful is good but it doesn't discount the fact that you abused her

Did you return the car yet....or offer to?

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Not trying to be selfish but she abused me with her cheating and lying and then throwing in that she loves me more than anything....
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I don't really have any advice other than to say I can relate. I've lost respect for myself in some relationships.

And, in all honesty.... begging = no coming back from that. Ignoring her or not ignoring her makes no difference.

It's like putting a plaster on the great abyss that is your self-respect and then expecting it will support the weight of your ego as if you're making it walk the plank.
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What you all don't realize is I am willing to walk over anything to get her back... god damn it I asked for advice on how to get her back not this BS
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I don't really have any advice other than to say I can relate. I've lost respect for myself in some relationships.

And, in all honesty.... begging = no coming back from that. Ignoring her or not ignoring her makes no difference.

It's like putting a plaster on the great abyss that is your self-respect and then expecting it will support the weight of your ego as if you're making it walk the plank.
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The Libra intellect here seems misplaced somehow?

I admire him too 🙂

Poetic

Articulate

Classy

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Cut her loose if you're not happy. Life's too short for that mess. No need to play mind games. Yes, ignoring may get under her skin, maybe it won't. Drop her like a hot potato and keep it moving, maybe then it will hit her, when you're no longer looking back.


I told her in our previous conversations that once I leave, I'm gone forever. I asked her kindly but firmly to help make the necessary changes to move forward. Because she wanted to forget the past and start moving forward...



Now I'm doing something I've never done, before and that is I'm completely ignoring her, where as a week ago I was blowing up her phone.

I'm gonna be ignoring her and you updated.


Some people will never see your worth or appreciate you, but that's not what's important...

Do YOU see your own worth?

From what I'm reading, I'm not convinced you do. Don't allow anyone else to dictate your value. If she isn't appreciating you for who you are now, then how is ignoring her going to achieve your desired goal? It won't make a difference.



You are prolonging the inevitable from what I can see, you've already expressed your concerns and needs and as you had put it yourself, actions speak louder than words. The longer you stay, the longer you're keeping yourself from finding someone who will truly value you.




Hahaha your totally right. Right now I'm just concentrating on myself, my world and school and education. That's how I know my worth.

Today is Sunday. Last I spoke to her was Thursday morning which ended in an argument. This is what I texted her to which she then blew up my phone the entire day calling 18 times worried for me.



" Your always gonna lie and you'll never stop

Your narcissistic and a compulsive liar

You need to go see a psychiatrist

Your a pathological liar and I cannot help fix that

Only a professional can help

You mock my intelligence and you think you can lie to me and they will make us go forward

It's all lies until you prove I can trust you

You actively work against my efforts to move forward with your lies and dishonesty"



- that was all sent Thursday morning and by Thursday night she called me 18 times
None of that would make any Sane person want to prove anything though.

Have some back bone and pride and just break up in a mature way and be mature enough to also stay away, instead of staying with her and then blaiming her for your faults (which is staying).

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Well I won't want to play the blame game anymore... it's just gonna cause us to go apart again.
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Damn did you even read the entire thing? She didn't leave her boyfriend when she was with me! And no at this point I'm a puppy dog, you know what a puppy dog is?


Didn't you just say she cheated on her ex boyfriend with you? And yes I did read the whole thing. Every single freaking page which is why I remembered you.

You might be a puppy dog, but puppy dogs are also uncontrollable and undisciplined. You need therapy, not a relationship.
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Yes ma'am he does

I hope he will take that golden piece of advice ?

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" Your always gonna lie and you'll never stop

Your narcissistic and a compulsive liar



why would you stay with someone who lies to you, is still cheating on you, you both seem to play games, and you find it necessary to be abusive to get your way ... please just walk away and grow up before you get into another relationship




Because truth be told I love her. And this is my first time I'm ignoring her... usually I'd sit down and have a conversation like an adult. We both would listen to what we had to say, but the next week she was back to lying and deceiving me.

That's why I'm ignoring her till she contacts me... this period of giving myself space and shunning her out of my life is to teach her a lesson.

She needs to realize how life would be without me. I'm being taken for granted
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Damn did you even read the entire thing? She didn't leave her boyfriend when she was with me! And no at this point I'm a puppy dog, you know what a puppy dog is?


Didn't you just say she cheated on her ex boyfriend with you? And yes I did read the whole thing. Every single freaking page which is why I remembered you.

You might be a puppy dog, but puppy dogs are also uncontrollable and undisciplined. You need therapy, not a relationship.
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Actually I'm quite self-controllable and disciplined. I don't lie or cheat. I never have. I also caught my Leo lying to me when she got a DUI, and got arrested.

How is a man supposed to reacted to a woman who claims she loves him but lies and cheats?

Perhaps You should tell me what to do since your such a professional instead of criticizing me...
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Cut her loose if you're not happy. Life's too short for that mess. No need to play mind games. Yes, ignoring may get under her skin, maybe it won't. Drop her like a hot potato and keep it moving, maybe then it will hit her, when you're no longer looking back.


I told her in our previous conversations that once I leave, I'm gone forever. I asked her kindly but firmly to help make the necessary changes to move forward. Because she wanted to forget the past and start moving forward...



Now I'm doing something I've never done, before and that is I'm completely ignoring her, where as a week ago I was blowing up her phone.

I'm gonna be ignoring her and you updated.


Some people will never see your worth or appreciate you, but that's not what's important...

Do YOU see your own worth?

From what I'm reading, I'm not convinced you do. Don't allow anyone else to dictate your value. If she isn't appreciating you for who you are now, then how is ignoring her going to achieve your desired goal? It won't make a difference.



You are prolonging the inevitable from what I can see, you've already expressed your concerns and needs and as you had put it yourself, actions speak louder than words. The longer you stay, the longer you're keeping yourself from finding someone who will truly value you.




Hahaha your totally right. Right now I'm just concentrating on myself, my world and school and education. That's how I know my worth.

Today is Sunday. Last I spoke to her was Thursday morning which ended in an argument. This is what I texted her to which she then blew up my phone the entire day calling 18 times worried for me.



" Your always gonna lie and you'll never stop

Your narcissistic and a compulsive liar

You need to go see a psychiatrist

Your a pathological liar and I cannot help fix that

Only a professional can help

You mock my intelligence and you think you can lie to me and they will make us go forward

It's all lies until you prove I can trust you

You actively work against my efforts to move forward with your lies and dishonesty"



- that was all sent Thursday morning and by Thursday night she called me 18 times
None of that would make any Sane person want to prove anything though.

Have some back bone and pride and just break up in a mature way and be mature enough to also stay away, instead of staying with her and then blaiming her for your faults (which is staying).




Well I won't want to play the blame game anymore... it's just gonna cause us to go apart again.


Well you are playing the blaime game. You are blaiming her for you not being able to leave the situation. She cheated on you- you should have left. But you stick around instead. That's not her fault. I think you need to grow stronger and feel better about yourself. Take this opportunity life presents to you ?
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I said a few posts back that this is the last straw. If she contacts me and things don't go well from then on... then I'm gonna leave forever and never look back.
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I am more certain now ,about the fact that cheating is not a deal breaker for Aries .


I told her a few months back when I caught her lying again... I sat her down at a coffee shop and looked her in the eyes. I said

"my love, I know, I know what's going on. I know what you did. I know everything. You do realize your hurting me and breaking my heart. But I wanna let you know this, that I'll love you more than anything till the end of time."

I then got up and walked away into my car and went home.

And now I'm getting fucking criticized when I'm asking for advice.... not to leave her but what to do instead of leaving her!
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I actually am in therapy, for depression. Have some compassion for once


How do I not have compassion? Because I'm not telling you to pursue her? I empathize with you and how you feel but I don't have much compassion for abusers, being a victim myself. Depression is not the same as anger management or trying to manage that abusive tendency of yours.
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My shit and the abuse happened 8 months ago and I went to anger management therapy. I showed her that I changed.

I'm here because she won't change, she's hella friggin stubborn. Yet she swears to me in tears she loves me more than anything whenever I tell her I'm gonna be leaving her soon.

Little does she know that this is the last straw, no more Mark after this...
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Actually I'm quite self-controllable and disciplined. I don't lie or cheat. I never have. I also caught my Leo lying to me when she got a DUI, and got arrested.

How is a man supposed to reacted to a woman who claims she loves him but lies and cheats?

Perhaps You should tell me what to do since your such a professional instead of criticizing me...
I'm talking about self-control and discipline in your abusive tendencies. You can't be selective with the things you are good at. You sound just like my ex. You have two qualities that are good and you think that overrides everything else that you do.

You're supposed to have some pedigree and walk away! That's your fault. She cheated and she lied to her ex-boyfriend and you still accepted her. You got emotionally attached and now you're surprised she treats you the same?

I have already told you what to do but you don't listen! You need anger management or therapy in trying to fix your abusive tendencies. That takes time plus you are suffering from depression? Why get into a relationship to bring another person down?

In all you sound exactly like my ex. You only want to hear what you WANT to hear not what you NEED to hear. Then at the end of the day you complain why things aren't going your way. You think that just because you're a puppy dog that that's going to change things? How long will that last before the abuse and the vicious cycle starts up again? You yourself has said she hasn't changed...then why are you still there?

I know why...because you want to control her and tell her to change. You love her, but you don't love certain things about her and you're trying to control her and tell her to be a certain way. That's not how love works. Especially not with Leos or Aquarius! (or any fixed sign for that matter). We will not change for you. We will change if WE want to. NOT the other way around.

I can just picture how things went down because that's how it happened with my ex. You loved her, she's probably physically beautiful, loving, attentive, devoted. BUT she has certain flaws you don't like. So you guys get into arguments. You tell her to change and stop doing what she is doing (lying, etc) and she relents or tells you to go and fck yourself. You blow up until you can't take it and you beat her down into submission. But you realized that that's not working because she's not a pushover. So you beg and ask for forgiveness and convince her you're going to change. The cycle begins again. Except this time she walked away for good...now you feel like you got to step up your game because your usual plights aren't working.

Thing is up until you have her again, things will go back to the same crap. You haven't changed...you're just saving face. But this time things are going to be different because you will not forgive her for what she's doing to you and you will try to hold on to her tighter because you're afraid she might leave for good.

If you love her...then LET HER GO. Don't wait until she comes back around...take initiative. That's my advice to you.
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I appreciate your advice but I don't fucking beat her down into submission. I asked her kindly and she keeps lying...

This is my first innitiative that I've ever taken. Which is to ignore her and she will see that I am not the puppy dog that's gonna be there for her stroking her ego so she can cheat and lie...
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*insert random eye rolling gif here*

LOL @ Alpha male = making someone listen and follow like a trooper.

LOL @ playing games

LOL @ teaching someone a lesson

LOL @ you wanting to stay in a dysfunctional toxic relationship



You need help, and lots of it.


K I swear to fucking god I came here to get some fucking advice about how ignoring her might work and literally I'm getting fucking trolled...
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*insert random eye rolling gif here*

LOL @ Alpha male = making someone listen and follow like a trooper.

LOL @ playing games

LOL @ teaching someone a lesson

LOL @ you wanting to stay in a dysfunctional toxic relationship



You need help, and lots of it.


K I swear to fucking god I came here to get some fucking advice about how ignoring her might work and literally I'm getting fucking trolled...
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You're getting trolled cause you are an idiot. What are you 5? Playing emotional games is stupid and juvenile.

Again, you need help.
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My brother is a Leo and just broke up with his libra gf of 6 years to be with a Taurus. The libra thought they were getting married too. He put all the blame on her so the breakup seemed like her fault but he really just didn't want to be with her anymore.
He and the Taurus have some crazy passionate obsessive synastry though. I don't see it lasting but it's going to transform him. I feel bad for him..I think she's going to be the first person who breaks his heart.

Damn sorry I totally hijacked this thread with my own random thoughts
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Taurus are very talented when it comes to breaking hearts. Our intentions are pure, thats what makes the heartbreak so devastating.

Best of luck to your brother.
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OP, I have had my heart broken very badly before. I NEVER thought I would get over it, EVER. and it took me about 3 years to mature into a well-developed person who also puts my feelings into consideration. In a true relationship, your partner is going to want to take care of you and your feelings. Don't think how she treating you is normal, it's not.


I came here to ask how to make things normal again. I'm going to therapy and counseling and I thought coming on dxp to seek advice would be a good idea.

I appreciate your support friend.
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*insert random eye rolling gif here*

LOL @ Alpha male = making someone listen and follow like a trooper.

LOL @ playing games

LOL @ teaching someone a lesson

LOL @ you wanting to stay in a dysfunctional toxic relationship



You need help, and lots of it.


K I swear to fucking god I came here to get some fucking advice about how ignoring her might work and literally I'm getting fucking trolled...
You're getting trolled cause you are an idiot. What are you 5? Playing emotional games is stupid and juvenile.

Again, you need help.
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No im not wanting to play emotional games... but my value has dropped so bad good luck finding my name on Nasdaq! Anyways I am getting help by going to therapy and counseling.

Also I'm keeping myself busy with school and work, and friends. I'm going out and going to the gym.
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Told you to not get involved with her when you where posting about saving her ass.

I'm a Aries dealt with Leo's my whole life and was kinda in the same situation once. A lot of Leo's work the same way once you know the signs Leo's do you'll kno when you need to stop fucking with them where other signs would get cuckold by them.

Never give them power you gotta pretty much be a demon after Leo breakups
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OP, I have had my heart broken very badly before. I NEVER thought I would get over it, EVER. and it took me about 3 years to mature into a well-developed person who also puts my feelings into consideration. In a true relationship, your partner is going to want to take care of you and your feelings. Don't think how she treating you is normal, it's not.


I came here to ask how to make things normal again. I'm going to therapy and counseling and I thought coming on dxp to seek advice would be a good idea.

I appreciate your support friend.
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I don't see either the @OP or his girl as normal - with the facts presented - of course everyone has a different opinion of what "normal" is - I just mean drama and stress, lying, cheating, violence, arguing, etc. all not normal in my book so this is where I come from in saying the @OP needs to grow a bit in his view of how things can go in this world ... or stay the same and continue to suffer the same consequences over and over and over again ...

I am glad he's getting some counseling however. It might help. There is always hope!
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Told you to not get involved with her when you where posting about saving her ass.

I'm a Aries dealt with Leo's my whole life and was kinda in the same situation once. A lot of Leo's work the same way once you know the signs Leo's do you'll kno when you need to stop fucking with them where other signs would get cuckold by them.

Never give them power you gotta pretty much be a demon after Leo breakups




Thank you for posting your opinion Aries friend. I was the puppy dog for 8 months aka the cuckhold once I lost power and my foothold in the relationship.



I'm working on myself and I'm also working on how to gain my position and foothold in my relationship. That's why I'm ignoring her right now...

She's probably worried as fuck and this Thursday

It will be one week from when we last spoke. I'm gonna ignore her till she cracks...

And when she does I'll put all my effort into working on creating a balanced healthy relationship.