help sign the petition to Make Hillary Clinton President on December 19 (Page 3)

Posted by GetMisted

2. The EC is not a true democratic process IMO.

Including myself, I believe many would agree that the election process needs a serious revamp.

Why didn't you just vote for her before? to busy stand up paddle boarding and drinking kale shakes I suspect.

Posted by Scorpio84
My old bro was happy that Trump won even though he is european

guess im the only guy in the family that doesn't care about politics too much.

Cancan i wish ya good luck if Trump really is the bad guy im thinking of.

Edit: i remember why he prefered Trump, it was cause of the feminists

i also don't support this people for simple reasons:

http://heatst.com/tech/can-western-feminists-change-japanese-anime/

http://nichegamer.com/2016/03/01/japanese-representative-refutes-un-suggestion-to-ban-media-depicting-sexual-violence/

This doesn't mean i would support Trump either though...

Kinda of an irony. They're against sexual violence but I didn't see anything about violence of any kind.

Your european brother must have a different mommy or daddy.

lol @ this thread.

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Scrumptious

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Scrumptious
can we make divacanleo president

😕

Before your time.

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i guess

Hillary vs Trump .. Covert vs overt racism .. Which one are you more comfortable with ?



30:00 - 34:10 (food for thought)

You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

Signing a petition isn't going to do shit. Find other ways to waste time at work.

Posted by aquanib
I found this quote pertinent for the sentiment of the thread.



jajajajaja 😄

lol

Posted by GetMisted

Posted by Amandus

Posted by GetMisted

How exactly do states with higher populations change that she won the popular votes across the country?

It doesn't but elections haven't been won that way for the past 180 years.

Posted by GetMisted

Who should have won this election? Clinton with the most votes in the country.

I agree but that wasn't the system Clinton and Trump accepted when they chose to enter the run for presidency. They went in knowing they had to win the most electoral votes just as it has been for the past 180 years. Hillary has already conceded the election and recognized Donald Trump as the winner. The only ones who are bothered by this loss are the ones who voted for Hillary.

If Hillary won the Electoral Vote but lost the Popular Vote would we still be this upset about it? We can push for the proper modifications to election process now that the race has ended but I feel we're too late to try to change the results as they stand currently. What this petition is trying to achieve is entirely possible but I wonder if it would convince enough electors to follow through.

In order for the petition to achieve it's goal at least 37 Republican party electors must go rogue and steal the election for Hillary in defiance of the recognized rules as well as the states they're supposed to be representing.

To me this poses as a danger to the democracy because if this were to become the norm the votes of the masses would become even less relevant than they seem now because then the electoral college may choose to screw the people over whenever they wish because we've allowed them to. Meaning, when the candidate we vote for next time actually wins the voters of the losing party may simply choose to file their own petition and have enough electors betray who they represent to make the losing candidate win anyway.

1. Yes.. If Clinton won the EC, and Trump the Popular vote, my reaction and outcry would be the same.

2. The EC is not a true democratic process IMO.

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Why do you think it's not?

California and New York represent 50% of the total votes of this election. They are also damn near 100% democratic. Throw another 12 million in there for Illinois and the election is unreachable for any republican.

Posted by Ssuperman
You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

Advocating the overthrow of government..

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman
You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

Advocating the overthrow of government..

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

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Yep. Anyone who signs or asks others to sign that petition could be charged.

Posted by SassyKiwi
Are you kidding me. He's already talking about being part-time at the White House. Next thing you know he'll have The Apprentice film crew there! America needs this.

This really me made laugh 😆 😆

Posted by Toa
Why didn't you just vote for her before? to busy stand up paddle boarding and drinking kale shakes I suspect.

Kale...?? Yuck!! I did vote...there were over 11,000 joke votes but I was not one of them ...look at this point I don't even mind another republican ....I just want someone that knows what he is doing— Any other freaking republican will do ...any of them ...

Posted by Ssuperman
You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

I mean...I don't think so...its either they would do something (and they probably won't) or they will...those are the only two things that will happen ...and (this statement is not directed at you) I kind of find it ironic that people are whining so much about the thread its not that hard if you want to sign it then great yas! If not I respect that...its OK you know?

Posted by Cancan26

Posted by Ssuperman
You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

I mean...I don't think so...its either they would do something (and they probably won't) or they will...those are the only two things that will happen ...and (this statement is not directed at you) I kind of find it ironic that people are whining so much about the thread its not that hard if you want to sign it then great yas! If not I respect that...its OK you know?

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It definitely is OK. I'm just commenting on the action of said petition. I haven't commented negatively about the petition or anyone signing it. I'm just saying that he's the president-elect. The petition is to overthrow the government official. Fact.

I'll leave ya to it sweetie. Good luck with your goal.

DONE

Posted by Katana

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman
You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

Advocating the overthrow of government..

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

Yep. Anyone who signs or asks others to sign that petition could be charged.

Creating a petition to gather enough votes to establish a revote after an undesirable outcome in an election is far from mutiny, it's very much a part of democracy. You must not completely comprehend exactly how democracy works in the U.S if you really believe that statement to be true. This petition is completely legal and Americans are well within their right to sign it if they so desire to do so.

Donald Trump hasn't even been sworn in as president yet until the 20th of January of next year, Obama is still our official president so technically Trump can't even be overthrown at the moment. Obama even signed off on the revote. Petitions exist because democracy exists and are put in place so that violent rebellions don't have to be the only way the voices of the people can be heard.

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A revote? Lol. That's like wanting to play a game over because you lost. There's no mulligans in life.

I suggest that in 4 years every democrat should work even harder to get your candidate in office. Only half of Americans actually voted. I bet half the people signing that petition didn't vote.

The electoral college voting the way they choose (regardless of the outcome in their respective states) is actually not unconstitutional. It's simply one of those questionable things allowed by our government. I plan to take full advantage of that.

*shrug* Trump is simply not my president.

Posted by Katana

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman
You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

Advocating the overthrow of government..

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

Yep. Anyone who signs or asks others to sign that petition could be charged.

Creating a petition to gather enough votes to establish a revote after an undesirable outcome in an election is far from mutiny, it's very much a part of democracy. You must not completely comprehend exactly how democracy works in the U.S if you really believe that statement to be true. This petition is completely legal and Americans are well within their right to sign it if they so desire to do so.

Donald Trump hasn't even been sworn in as president yet until the 20th of January of next year, Obama is still our official president so technically Trump can't even be overthrown at the moment. Obama even signed off on the revote. Petitions exist because democracy exists and are put in place so that violent rebellions don't have to be the only way the voices of the people can be heard.

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Nothing wrong with signing a petition, but good luck.

So, just to educate me, how does democracy work in the US? I am curious.

The use of the term "overthrown" implies rebellion. Care to elaborate?

And......what revote did Obama sign off on, exactly?

If its that bit about an executive order, that has already been shown to be a false news story.

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by Cancan26

Posted by Ssuperman
You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

I mean...I don't think so...its either they would do something (and they probably won't) or they will...those are the only two things that will happen ...and (this statement is not directed at you) I kind of find it ironic that people are whining so much about the thread its not that hard if you want to sign it then great yas! If not I respect that...its OK you know?

It definitely is OK. I'm just commenting on the action of said petition. I haven't commented negatively about the petition or anyone signing it. I'm just saying that he's the president-elect. The petition is to overthrow the government official. Fact.

I'll leave ya to it sweetie. Good luck with your goal.

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awww sssupes your so sweet ....even when we totally disagree your still sooo damn sweet ...😄 a true southern man ...

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by Katana

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman
You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

Advocating the overthrow of government..

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

Yep. Anyone who signs or asks others to sign that petition could be charged.

Creating a petition to gather enough votes to establish a revote after an undesirable outcome in an election is far from mutiny, it's very much a part of democracy. You must not completely comprehend exactly how democracy works in the U.S if you really believe that statement to be true. This petition is completely legal and Americans are well within their right to sign it if they so desire to do so.

Donald Trump hasn't even been sworn in as president yet until the 20th of January of next year, Obama is still our official president so technically Trump can't even be overthrown at the moment. Obama even signed off on the revote. Petitions exist because democracy exists and are put in place so that violent rebellions don't have to be the only way the voices of the people can be heard.

A revote? Lol. That's like wanting to play a game over because you lost. There's no mulligans in life.

I suggest that in 4 years every democrat should work even harder to get your candidate in office. Only half of Americans actually voted. I bet half the people signing that petition didn't vote.

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Actually, less than half

There's 300+ million Americans

Last I checked, some 120 million voted.

That's less than half.

While the petition is legal, the forces behind the petition are straddling that line of attempting to overthrow the government.

The kind of people who want to overthrow the government are behind the Change petition.

Don't be surprised if some, among them who signed the petition, were present when this photo

was taken.





https://twitter.com/thereal_beck/status/797597403088125952/photo/1







http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2016/11/10/thousands-of-americans-surround-donald-trumps-home-in-night-of-angry-riots/



When you see that Socialist Alternative, you know for sure of one group would like to see Trump dead.



They were likely part of the group that was bussed into Ferguson.

http://www.socialistalternative.org/

Notice the SA??



The Sturmabteilung (or SA)

The Sturmabteilung (or SA) symbol is the emblem of Hitler's brownshirted stormtroopers (Sturmabteilung or "storm units" in German). The Sturmabteilung were paramilitary formations used by Hitler to intimidate political opponents and Jews before and after his rise to power in Germany. It declined after 1934 when its leaders were murdered at Hitler's orders and was largely supplanted by the SS. After World War II, some neo-Nazis, especially in Europe, turned to the Sturmabteilung symbol after other, more recognizable Nazi symbols were banned. In this way, the Sturmabteilung symbol became a fairly common white supremacist symbol.

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/sturmabteilung.html#.WCp9gfQW6Yx





http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/swastika.html#.WCp_QfQW6Yx



What people need to understand is that all those banners and flags and symbols however/wherever, presented, are like the raised fist flags and are really nothing more than a given hate group's "colors".

I see no difference between the Rainbow flag and the Swastika or Feminist Flag, the African's Flag, the Confederate Flag, the American Flag and the whole host of them.

All them have been flown in the spirit of Hate and have been offensive to this or that group for this or that

reason.

They are all called "Standards" and the day is going to come when they are all cast down.

This petition business, really reveals people for who they are, what they support and that's about it.

It's called Internal Espionage.

What were you people thinking?

Posted by Katana

Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
Nothing wrong with signing a petition, but good luck.

So, just to educate me, how does democracy work in the US? I am curious.

The use of the term "overthrown" implies rebellion. Care to elaborate?

And......what revote did Obama sign off on, exactly?

If its that bit about an executive order, that has already been shown to be a false news story.

One can only hope and it doesn't hurt to try. I rather try and be a part of the solution and making a positive change than sit here and judge other people for doing it.

I know you really don't expect me to sit here and give you a whole run down of how something as basic as democracy works like you can't just research that shit yourself. If so, you can keep waiting on that. The internet is your friend, use it. My reply can give you a hint as to what it entails.

If you would just refer back to where "overthrown" was used in my reply and note the context in which it was applied I'm sure you'll find the answer you seek, no elaboration necessary.

I was talking about the links I provided to official news websites that have reported the whole revote situation being a possible scenario.

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Ok. I'll make it simple for you.

The system in the US does not provide a "re-vote", unless the popular vote is close within a certain percentage, and that varies from state to state. And in those cases, absentee ballots, which normally do not get counted if the vote is clear, DO get counted.

So far, that has not been triggered in any 2016 election in the respective states.

Each state has its slate of electors. In most states, the electoral college votes according to a "winner take all" system. Several states, such as Nebraska and Maine, have a different system.

As far as the democracy you're talking about:

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what they're having for dinner.



The corollary is:

The second amendment allows the sheep to exercise its veto.

Let that sink in.

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by Katana

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman
You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

Advocating the overthrow of government..

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

Yep. Anyone who signs or asks others to sign that petition could be charged.

Creating a petition to gather enough votes to establish a revote after an undesirable outcome in an election is far from mutiny, it's very much a part of democracy. You must not completely comprehend exactly how democracy works in the U.S if you really believe that statement to be true. This petition is completely legal and Americans are well within their right to sign it if they so desire to do so.

Donald Trump hasn't even been sworn in as president yet until the 20th of January of next year, Obama is still our official president so technically Trump can't even be overthrown at the moment. Obama even signed off on the revote. Petitions exist because democracy exists and are put in place so that violent rebellions don't have to be the only way the voices of the people can be heard.

A revote? Lol. That's like wanting to play a game over because you lost. There's no mulligans in life.

I suggest that in 4 years every democrat should work even harder to get your candidate in office. Only half of Americans actually voted. I bet half the people signing that petition didn't vote.

Actually, less than half

There's 300+ million Americans

Last I checked, some 120 million voted.

That's less than half.

While the petition is legal, the forces behind the petition are straddling that line of attempting to overthrow the government.

The kind of people who want to overthrow the government are behind the Change petition.

Don't be surprised if some, among them who signed the petition, were present when this photo

was taken.





https://twitter.com/thereal_beck/status/797597403088125952/photo/1







http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2016/11/10/thousands-of-americans-surround-donald-trumps-home-in-night-of-angry-riots/



When you see that Socialist Alternative, you know for sure of one group would like to see Trump dead.



They were likely part of the group that was bussed into Ferguson.

http://www.socialistalternative.org/

Notice the SA??



The Sturmabteilung (or SA)

The Sturmabteilung (or SA) symbol is the emblem of Hitler's brownshirted stormtroopers (Sturmabteilung or "storm units" in German). The Sturmabteilung were paramilitary formations used by Hitler to intimidate political opponents and Jews before and after his rise to power in Germany. It declined after 1934 when its leaders were murdered at Hitler's orders and was largely supplanted by the SS. After World War II, some neo-Nazis, especially in Europe, turned to the Sturmabteilung symbol after other, more recognizable Nazi symbols were banned. In this way, the Sturmabteilung symbol became a fairly common white supremacist symbol.

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/sturmabteilung.html#.WCp9gfQW6Yx





http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/swastika.html#.WCp_QfQW6Yx



What people need to understand is that all those banners and flags and symbols however/wherever

like the raised fist are really nothing more than a given hate group's "colors".

I see no difference between the Rainbow flag and the Swastika or Feminist Flag, the African's Flag, the Confederate Flag, the American Flag and the whole host of them.

All them have been flown in the spirit of Hate and have been offensive to this or that group for this or that

reason.

They are all called "Standards" and the day is going to come when they are all cast down.

This petition business, really reveals people for who they are, what they support and that's about it.

It's called Internal Espionage.

What were you people thinking?

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if you see no difference between those flags you need glasses ...

the rainbow flag is for LGBTQ communities a group of people that were previously mistreated but they have not called for the death or mistreat of people who are "straight "

the black power flag is the same thing it is for a group of people that were previously mistreated but they have not called for the death or mistreat of people who are "white "

Feminist Flag— lol we don't have a flag ...we need one lol ...but feminist only want the rights over their own bodies and equal pay? but they have not called for the death or mistreat of people who are "male "

american flag just representation of our country ---

the Swastika--this complicated ...the symbol itself means something good I think its the 4 points of light? however b/c this is the symbol that was used when MILLIONS of people where murdered and tortured men, women. and children ... 😢 and its NOT flown in Germany b/c unlike america they are VERY ASHAMED of this part of their history

and the Confederate Flag, --same thing as the swastika people argue that ...its part of the history ..and it might be but b/c mean people feel like the symbol represents a VERY DARK TIME in american where our country was divided and people were murdered and tortured ...

ALSO THOSE SIGNS THAT SAY KILL TRUMP AND RAPE MELAINA THAT SHIT WRONG ...ok ...look there is NO excuse for it ..its wrong ..

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by Katana

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman
You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

Advocating the overthrow of government..

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

Yep. Anyone who signs or asks others to sign that petition could be charged.

Creating a petition to gather enough votes to establish a revote after an undesirable outcome in an election is far from mutiny, it's very much a part of democracy. You must not completely comprehend exactly how democracy works in the U.S if you really believe that statement to be true. This petition is completely legal and Americans are well within their right to sign it if they so desire to do so.

Donald Trump hasn't even been sworn in as president yet until the 20th of January of next year, Obama is still our official president so technically Trump can't even be overthrown at the moment. Obama even signed off on the revote. Petitions exist because democracy exists and are put in place so that violent rebellions don't have to be the only way the voices of the people can be heard.

A revote? Lol. That's like wanting to play a game over because you lost. There's no mulligans in life.

I suggest that in 4 years every democrat should work even harder to get your candidate in office. Only half of Americans actually voted. I bet half the people signing that petition didn't vote.

Actually, less than half

There's 300+ million Americans

Last I checked, some 120 million voted.

That's less than half.

While the petition is legal, the forces behind the petition are straddling that line of attempting to overthrow the government.

The kind of people who want to overthrow the government are behind the Change petition.

Don't be surprised if some, among them who signed the petition, were present when this photo

was taken.





https://twitter.com/thereal_beck/status/797597403088125952/photo/1







http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2016/11/10/thousands-of-americans-surround-donald-trumps-home-in-night-of-angry-riots/



When you see that Socialist Alternative, you know for sure of one group would like to see Trump dead.



They were likely part of the group that was bussed into Ferguson.

http://www.socialistalternative.org/

Notice the SA??



The Sturmabteilung (or SA)

The Sturmabteilung (or SA) symbol is the emblem of Hitler's brownshirted stormtroopers (Sturmabteilung or "storm units" in German). The Sturmabteilung were paramilitary formations used by Hitler to intimidate political opponents and Jews before and after his rise to power in Germany. It declined after 1934 when its leaders were murdered at Hitler's orders and was largely supplanted by the SS. After World War II, some neo-Nazis, especially in Europe, turned to the Sturmabteilung symbol after other, more recognizable Nazi symbols were banned. In this way, the Sturmabteilung symbol became a fairly common white supremacist symbol.

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/sturmabteilung.html#.WCp9gfQW6Yx





http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/swastika.html#.WCp_QfQW6Yx



What people need to understand is that all those banners and flags and symbols however/wherever, presented, are like the raised fist flags and are really nothing more than a given hate group's "colors".

I see no difference between the Rainbow flag and the Swastika or Feminist Flag, the African's Flag, the Confederate Flag, the American Flag and the whole host of them.

All them have been flown in the spirit of Hate and have been offensive to this or that group for this or that

reason.

They are all called "Standards" and the day is going to come when they are all cast down.

This petition business, really reveals people for who they are, what they support and that's about it.

It's called Internal Espionage.

What were you people thinking?

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Man, you just go way the hell out there. Always to the extreme.

Sometimes you make valid points and I can roll with that.

Then there's cases like this that just go way too far for me.

Posted by Katana

Posted by Ssuperman
A revote? Lol. That's like wanting to play a game over because you lost. There's no mulligans in life.

I suggest that in 4 years every democrat should work even harder to get your candidate in office. Only half of Americans actually voted. I bet half the people signing that petition didn't vote.

Yes a revote. I don't make the rules but thankfully such a thing exists. The election is not a game and this is not about one side losing to the other, America loses as a whole having such a bigot and unfit candidate for a president. Hilary is a shitty candidate too but I rather her over Trump and it's sad that the future of this country has really come down to choosing the "lesser of two evils".

I agree that more democrats should vote and I really hope that happens for generations to come and if this revote actually does come into effect for the sake of all of us, especially the disenfranchised.

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We need change and your candidate offered none. There are far worse leaders in the world than Trump will ever be.

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by Katana

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman
You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

Advocating the overthrow of government..

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

Yep. Anyone who signs or asks others to sign that petition could be charged.

Creating a petition to gather enough votes to establish a revote after an undesirable outcome in an election is far from mutiny, it's very much a part of democracy. You must not completely comprehend exactly how democracy works in the U.S if you really believe that statement to be true. This petition is completely legal and Americans are well within their right to sign it if they so desire to do so.

Donald Trump hasn't even been sworn in as president yet until the 20th of January of next year, Obama is still our official president so technically Trump can't even be overthrown at the moment. Obama even signed off on the revote. Petitions exist because democracy exists and are put in place so that violent rebellions don't have to be the only way the voices of the people can be heard.

A revote? Lol. That's like wanting to play a game over because you lost. There's no mulligans in life.

I suggest that in 4 years every democrat should work even harder to get your candidate in office. Only half of Americans actually voted. I bet half the people signing that petition didn't vote.

Actually, less than half

There's 300+ million Americans

Last I checked, some 120 million voted.

That's less than half.

While the petition is legal, the forces behind the petition are straddling that line of attempting to overthrow the government.

The kind of people who want to overthrow the government are behind the Change petition.

Don't be surprised if some, among them who signed the petition, were present when this photo

was taken.





https://twitter.com/thereal_beck/status/797597403088125952/photo/1







http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2016/11/10/thousands-of-americans-surround-donald-trumps-home-in-night-of-angry-riots/



When you see that Socialist Alternative, you know for sure of one group would like to see Trump dead.



They were likely part of the group that was bussed into Ferguson.

http://www.socialistalternative.org/

Notice the SA??



The Sturmabteilung (or SA)

The Sturmabteilung (or SA) symbol is the emblem of Hitler's brownshirted stormtroopers (Sturmabteilung or "storm units" in German). The Sturmabteilung were paramilitary formations used by Hitler to intimidate political opponents and Jews before and after his rise to power in Germany. It declined after 1934 when its leaders were murdered at Hitler's orders and was largely supplanted by the SS. After World War II, some neo-Nazis, especially in Europe, turned to the Sturmabteilung symbol after other, more recognizable Nazi symbols were banned. In this way, the Sturmabteilung symbol became a fairly common white supremacist symbol.

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/sturmabteilung.html#.WCp9gfQW6Yx





http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/swastika.html#.WCp_QfQW6Yx



What people need to understand is that all those banners and flags and symbols however/wherever, presented, are like the raised fist flags and are really nothing more than a given hate group's "colors".

I see no difference between the Rainbow flag and the Swastika or Feminist Flag, the African's Flag, the Confederate Flag, the American Flag and the whole host of them.

All them have been flown in the spirit of Hate and have been offensive to this or that group for this or that

reason.

They are all called "Standards" and the day is going to come when they are all cast down.

This petition business, really reveals people for who they are, what they support and that's about it.

It's called Internal Espionage.

What were you people thinking?

Man, you just go way the hell out there. Always to the extreme.

Sometimes you make valid points and I can roll with that.

Then there's cases like this that just go way too far for me.

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Extreme?

A mystery, inside a riddle, inside an enigma.

The code that can't be cracked and that which casts no shadows.

I've been told....



It's ok. I understand. Been there, done that, blank stares.



All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

Posted by Katana

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by Katana

Posted by Ssuperman
A revote? Lol. That's like wanting to play a game over because you lost. There's no mulligans in life.

I suggest that in 4 years every democrat should work even harder to get your candidate in office. Only half of Americans actually voted. I bet half the people signing that petition didn't vote.

Yes a revote. I don't make the rules but thankfully such a thing exists. The election is not a game and this is not about one side losing to the other, America loses as a whole having such a bigot and unfit candidate for a president. Hilary is a shitty candidate too but I rather her over Trump and it's sad that the future of this country has really come down to choosing the "lesser of two evils".

I agree that more democrats should vote and I really hope that happens for generations to come and if this revote actually does come into effect for the sake of all of us, especially the disenfranchised.

We need change and your candidate offered none. There are far worse leaders in the world than Trump will ever be.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this of course.

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I can do that. 😉

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by Katana

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman
You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

Advocating the overthrow of government..

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

Yep. Anyone who signs or asks others to sign that petition could be charged.

Creating a petition to gather enough votes to establish a revote after an undesirable outcome in an election is far from mutiny, it's very much a part of democracy. You must not completely comprehend exactly how democracy works in the U.S if you really believe that statement to be true. This petition is completely legal and Americans are well within their right to sign it if they so desire to do so.

Donald Trump hasn't even been sworn in as president yet until the 20th of January of next year, Obama is still our official president so technically Trump can't even be overthrown at the moment. Obama even signed off on the revote. Petitions exist because democracy exists and are put in place so that violent rebellions don't have to be the only way the voices of the people can be heard.

A revote? Lol. That's like wanting to play a game over because you lost. There's no mulligans in life.

I suggest that in 4 years every democrat should work even harder to get your candidate in office. Only half of Americans actually voted. I bet half the people signing that petition didn't vote.

Actually, less than half

There's 300+ million Americans

Last I checked, some 120 million voted.

That's less than half.

While the petition is legal, the forces behind the petition are straddling that line of attempting to overthrow the government.

The kind of people who want to overthrow the government are behind the Change petition.

Don't be surprised if some, among them who signed the petition, were present when this photo

was taken.





https://twitter.com/thereal_beck/status/797597403088125952/photo/1







http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2016/11/10/thousands-of-americans-surround-donald-trumps-home-in-night-of-angry-riots/



When you see that Socialist Alternative, you know for sure of one group would like to see Trump dead.



They were likely part of the group that was bussed into Ferguson.

http://www.socialistalternative.org/

Notice the SA??



The Sturmabteilung (or SA)

The Sturmabteilung (or SA) symbol is the emblem of Hitler's brownshirted stormtroopers (Sturmabteilung or "storm units" in German). The Sturmabteilung were paramilitary formations used by Hitler to intimidate political opponents and Jews before and after his rise to power in Germany. It declined after 1934 when its leaders were murdered at Hitler's orders and was largely supplanted by the SS. After World War II, some neo-Nazis, especially in Europe, turned to the Sturmabteilung symbol after other, more recognizable Nazi symbols were banned. In this way, the Sturmabteilung symbol became a fairly common white supremacist symbol.

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/sturmabteilung.html#.WCp9gfQW6Yx





http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/swastika.html#.WCp_QfQW6Yx



What people need to understand is that all those banners and flags and symbols however/wherever, presented, are like the raised fist flags and are really nothing more than a given hate group's "colors".

I see no difference between the Rainbow flag and the Swastika or Feminist Flag, the African's Flag, the Confederate Flag, the American Flag and the whole host of them.

All them have been flown in the spirit of Hate and have been offensive to this or that group for this or that

reason.

They are all called "Standards" and the day is going to come when they are all cast down.

This petition business, really reveals people for who they are, what they support and that's about it.

It's called Internal Espionage.

What were you people thinking?

Man, you just go way the hell out there. Always to the extreme.

Sometimes you make valid points and I can roll with that.

Then there's cases like this that just go way too far for me.

Extreme?

A mystery, inside a riddle, inside an enigma.

The code that can't be cracked and that which casts no shadows.

I've been told....

It's ok. I understand. Been there, done that, blank stares.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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I'm not hating on ya by any means.

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by Katana

Posted by Ssuperman

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by Ssuperman
You do know that if they put Hillary Clinton in the White House, it will start the 2nd Civil War? You do know this, right?

I think it's even considered mutiny what your attempting to do.

Just food for thought

Advocating the overthrow of government..

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

Yep. Anyone who signs or asks others to sign that petition could be charged.

Creating a petition to gather enough votes to establish a revote after an undesirable outcome in an election is far from mutiny, it's very much a part of democracy. You must not completely comprehend exactly how democracy works in the U.S if you really believe that statement to be true. This petition is completely legal and Americans are well within their right to sign it if they so desire to do so.

Donald Trump hasn't even been sworn in as president yet until the 20th of January of next year, Obama is still our official president so technically Trump can't even be overthrown at the moment. Obama even signed off on the revote. Petitions exist because democracy exists and are put in place so that violent rebellions don't have to be the only way the voices of the people can be heard.

A revote? Lol. That's like wanting to play a game over because you lost. There's no mulligans in life.

I suggest that in 4 years every democrat should work even harder to get your candidate in office. Only half of Americans actually voted. I bet half the people signing that petition didn't vote.

Actually, less than half

There's 300+ million Americans

Last I checked, some 120 million voted.

That's less than half.

While the petition is legal, the forces behind the petition are straddling that line of attempting to overthrow the government.

The kind of people who want to overthrow the government are behind the Change petition.

Don't be surprised if some, among them who signed the petition, were present when this photo

was taken.





https://twitter.com/thereal_beck/status/797597403088125952/photo/1







http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2016/11/10/thousands-of-americans-surround-donald-trumps-home-in-night-of-angry-riots/



When you see that Socialist Alternative, you know for sure of one group would like to see Trump dead.



They were likely part of the group that was bussed into Ferguson.

http://www.socialistalternative.org/

Notice the SA??



The Sturmabteilung (or SA)

The Sturmabteilung (or SA) symbol is the emblem of Hitler's brownshirted stormtroopers (Sturmabteilung or "storm units" in German). The Sturmabteilung were paramilitary formations used by Hitler to intimidate political opponents and Jews before and after his rise to power in Germany. It declined after 1934 when its leaders were murdered at Hitler's orders and was largely supplanted by the SS. After World War II, some neo-Nazis, especially in Europe, turned to the Sturmabteilung symbol after other, more recognizable Nazi symbols were banned. In this way, the Sturmabteilung symbol became a fairly common white supremacist symbol.

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/sturmabteilung.html#.WCp9gfQW6Yx





http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/swastika.html#.WCp_QfQW6Yx



What people need to understand is that all those banners and flags and symbols however/wherever, presented, are like the raised fist flags and are really nothing more than a given hate group's "colors".

I see no difference between the Rainbow flag and the Swastika or Feminist Flag, the African's Flag, the Confederate Flag, the American Flag and the whole host of them.

All them have been flown in the spirit of Hate and have been offensive to this or that group for this or that

reason.

They are all called "Standards" and the day is going to come when they are all cast down.

This petition business, really reveals people for who they are, what they support and that's about it.

It's called Internal Espionage.

What were you people thinking?

Man, you just go way the hell out there. Always to the extreme.

Sometimes you make valid points and I can roll with that.

Then there's cases like this that just go way too far for me.

Extreme?

A mystery, inside a riddle, inside an enigma.

The code that can't be cracked and that which casts no shadows.

I've been told....

It's ok. I understand. Been there, done that, blank stares.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

I'm not hating on ya by any means.

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Not sayin' you were. Just sayin' I'm not easily understood. Very misunderstood.

I can't stop people from believing what they want to believe.

For all the things that's been said about and to me, you'd swear I was a living legend.

All the hate that had been dished out at Donald Trump, this year reminded me of all

the hate that was dished out at me by most of the members on this forum.

It began when I first joined.

I asked about my moon.. (that was probably a mistake)

Elle told me I that I was going to freak everyone out.

Then... She told me that I see dead people.

Not too long after that, the women went nuts on me.

Followed by the minorities, and the Bacon-Lettuce-Tomato-Guacamole crowd.

All I could do was either shake my head or laugh.

You know what they got for doin that—

Donald Trump.

And the whole nation is upset.

And They've ALL become Orange with envious hatred.

It's a Greek Tragedy and I hear Obama has flown to Greece.

Posted by SATOSHIxNAKAMOTO
Hillary Clinton is never going to be president. I heard Chelsea has been groomed to run for congress though. Maybe if she wins she can run down the road somewhere.

Very possible. I do not expect any better because the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Greetings, DXPnet Political Insiders.

President Elect Donald Trump won both the Electoral and Popular votes.

Feel free to ping me anytime you want to reverse the entire political system.

@RealScorpioFish

Posted by AnOdeToNoOne
Greetings, DXPnet Political Insiders.

President Elect Donald Trump won both the Electoral and Popular votes.

Feel free to ping me anytime you want to reverse the entire political system.

@RealScorpioFish

😆

4,380,135 as of 7:15 EST

44 hours remaining

119,865 needed to reach 4,500,000

Shaking my head.

Is it possible they can reach the goal?

Sure, it's possible.

But.... that would leave only 4,500,000 people

who were interested in signing this petition to the electoral college.

Hillary had conceded. The Obama Administration had congratulated Trump.

The rest of the world has congratulated Trump.

Donald J. Trump is the recognized President Elect of the United States.

My question for the dissenters is this:

IF the Electors decides in favor of Trump, are you people going to be threatening the

Electors, too? Also, do you realize that the threats of rape and assassination made against

the Trumps, are no borderline if not cross over into the realm of threats of Terrorism?

Terrorists do what they do, in hopes to coerce and manipulate the policies of the state which

they assault.

Is this petition terroristic? no. Is it unconstitutional? no. BUT... the spirit in which this petition is

being presented, is accompanied by acts of civil unrest and violations of law. Such may factor

into the elector's decision making process.

Just keep that in mind.

On December 19, the Electors of the Electoral College will cast their ballots. If they all vote the way their states voted, Donald Trump will win. However, they can vote for Hillary Clinton if they choose. Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine - which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!

https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19



Buying votes—?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/selling-votes-is-common-type-of-election-fraud/2012/10/01/f8f5045a-071d-11e2-81ba-ffe35a7b6542_story.html

Even the elector, paying the fine, is engaging in election fraud.

The fine is the payment.

What about all the people that voted for Trump? Do they not matter? If the electoral college changes its mind and gives the job to Hillary do you think they will just sit back and accept it? What if they get enough signatures for a revote? This process can go on for ages. We can just spend the rest of eternity signing petitions. Either way, half of the voters will not be happy with the outcome.

And Hillary already conceded so she is not a candidate anymore. If the electoral college decides to vote someone else in, it can't be her. Now what?

Like it or not, both candidates went into the race knowing the rules. Everyone voted knowing the rules. You can't change the rules after the race simply because you didn't like the outcome.

The best thing to do is try and make changes for future elections.

I personally like the concept of the electoral college because it makes every state count, not just a select few. It does need some revamping though. Maybe dividing votes by county or congressional district instead of by the entire state so large cities don't cancel out the rest of the area.

Posted by NotSoInstant
United STATES of A is a Republic hence an electoral college... If Presidents are elected based on majority alone, it is akin to democracy and a mob rule. Also a win based on pular vote could lead to unscrupulous candidate to rigg the election in a highly populated state and win an election. With electoral votes, it is very difficult to riggg an election.

Trump won 31 States to Hillary's 19

Campaigns are run based on electoral college map, other thcn rallys.They would have spend more money on ground work to get more votes, advertisements, etc,...in the Red states to get more people to register and vote.

Electors are chosen based on their loyalty to their Party and expecting 30+ electors to not vote for Trump AND flip in Hilary's favour doesn't seem feasible.

And the biggie? Hillary conceded. Once the loser has conceded, it is over.



Hope you find the strength to heal from this, cancan....

🤗

lol 😆 😆 😆 ...this made laugh...and yes i"m trying lol ...

CanCan, how do you feel about people threatening the electors lives?

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/17/elector-threats/94003176/

Posted by MrFirebird
CanCan, how do you feel about people threatening the electors lives?

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/17/elector-threats/94003176/

obviously thats not ok ...its never okay to threaten/hurt people =_= even if they are republican .... 😆

Posted by ListenMister

Posted by AnOdeToNoOne
Greetings, DXPnet Political Insiders.

President Elect Donald Trump won both the Electoral and Popular votes.

Feel free to ping me anytime you want to reverse the entire political system.

@RealScorpioFish

Hillary won the popular vote by the largest margin of any candidate that lost the race for president in U.S history

The electoral college is a dated system, which btw Trump also agreed that it was a terrible system as well, but of course that was before he won

idc thou, him & the horrible people he pick to run america with is going to make the people in this country realize just how stupid they were for voting for him

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According to Federal Law, only United States Citizens are allowed to vote in Presidential Elections.

Once we remove the 2-3 million illegal alien votes from the November 2016 count, it becomes obvious that Trump won both the electoral college and popular vote.

Sorry, but even with your millions of cheating and otherwise fraudulent votes, you still lose.

If you think that your favorite Satanist bitch won the popular vote through fair and honest voting, then I have a slightly used bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

...And if you think that Hillary Clinton and her pals don't worship Satan, then try a Google search on Podesta's "spirit cooking" sometime.

Truly disgusting stuff that only a Satanic loser would be interested in.