Ladies...would you ever Fight for a man, to make him Yours?

Warning..I DON'T MEAN A PUNCH-UP TYPE FIGHT!

Yes Yes Yes..

To those of you who know my story, I'm harking back to this Pisces guy but having different thoughts this time.

Being a feminine guy he seems very much to want a woman to be more like a man.

Eg when a man fights for a woman he wants. Men being the hunters etc.

If a man is unhappy in his relationship but wants You, BUT is having trouble leaving her for you (insecurity, fear of the unknown), would you fight for him?

And I mean a guy you are so deeply in love with that you cannot live without him. You have connection, shared interests, you are very compatible, 'get' each other, chemistry both out and in the bedroom..and more.

Eg Pushing him over and over, to leave her (and by Push I mean Firmly Encourage, not to push him around).

Being vulnerable with him, to really show him you want him; giving him ultimatums if he doesn't leave her.

And any other shows of passionate behaviour including getting angry at him, then crying, storming off!

Ok a bit drama queen there but!

And Nooo

I don't want to hear NO GUY IS WORTH IT!

Thats too easy to say.

What if you felt a guy was worth it and you wanted him that badly with everything you have with each other.

I always felt this Pisces guy needed a proper level of security from me to know he will be ok leaving her for me.

He is very very insecure! Is Depressive. Disorganised. And Always talked about his craving for Security & Safety.

But i never really showed just how much I TRULY wanted him.

I was quiet and wishy-washy with him.

And as a Capricorn my natural reserve, and slow-to-open-up, slow to trust (sadly known as Capricorns COLDNESS), caused him to actually call me an Ice Queen about 2yrs ago!

I hated this because he didn't see that I had given him options for us to be together, and easily too; but he only wanted things to happen His way!

I guess that may have been his Aries Mars at workt though!

Anyway, would you emotionally and verbally Fight for a guy to leave his partner for you?

Or..

Would you just think that if a guy is THAT MUCH EFFORT, he's not worth it?

No I wouldn’t

....I can’t be with a man I’d lose respect for

Posted by pooface222

Warning..I DON'T MEAN A PUNCH-UP TYPE FIGHT!

Yes Yes Yes..

To those of you who know my story, I'm harking back to this Pisces guy but having different thoughts this time.

Being a feminine guy he seems very much to want a woman to be more like a man.

Eg when a man fights for a woman he wants. Men being the hunters etc.

If a man is unhappy in his relationship but wants You, BUT is having trouble leaving her for you (insecurity, fear of the unknown), would you fight for him?

And I mean a guy you are so deeply in love with that you cannot live without him. You have connection, shared interests, you are very compatible, 'get' each other, chemistry both out and in the bedroom..and more.

Eg Pushing him over and over, to leave her (and by Push I mean Firmly Encourage, not to push him around).

Being vulnerable with him, to really show him you want him; giving him ultimatums if he doesn't leave her.

And any other shows of passionate behaviour including getting angry at him, then crying, storming off!

Ok a bit drama queen there but!

And Nooo

I don't want to hear NO GUY IS WORTH IT!

Thats too easy to say.

What if you felt a guy was worth it and you wanted him that badly with everything you have with each other.

I always felt this Pisces guy needed a proper level of security from me to know he will be ok leaving her for me.

He is very very insecure! Is Depressive. Disorganised. And Always talked about his craving for Security & Safety.

But i never really showed just how much I TRULY wanted him.

I was quiet and wishy-washy with him.

And as a Capricorn my natural reserve, and slow-to-open-up, slow to trust (sadly known as Capricorns COLDNESS), caused him to actually call me an Ice Queen about 2yrs ago!

I hated this because he didn't see that I had given him options for us to be together, and easily too; but he only wanted things to happen His way!

I guess that may have been his Aries Mars at workt though!

Anyway, would you emotionally and verbally Fight for a guy to leave his partner for you?

Or..

Would you just think that if a guy is THAT MUCH EFFORT, he's not worth it?

They rarely leave. If they wanted to be with you, they would not be with someone else. I know its not as simple as that when there are and could be a lot of factors involved.

But lets be honest, if someone really wanted to be with you they would be, bit of a catch 22 is it not, when you here asking if you should fight for him :-)

Nope. I don’t fight for a difficult guy. Especially not one attached to someone else.

But I’ve been told that’s part of the problem with me by them. 😅

For me it’s easier to move on then to deal with stress they are trying to put me through.

I value my self worth over love.

You can love the next 10 people you meet and date. It’s something that is constant and can happen often. People are always afraid to fall in love, cause it happens so easily.

Respect and valuing your partner is harder to find. Which is why I prefer this over love.

I like loving someone but could care less about it when it comes to stressful situations.

Love doesn’t factor in if I’m being disrespected.

No. It’s not going to happen unless he wants to leave. Being scared to leave = not leaving ever.

You leave when it’s harder to stay than it is to leave.

Fighting for something like this is not a good idea. It’s more like banging your head against a wall. My opinion is you give a person an opportunity & then it’s up to them. You go live your life & if they truly want you they will make themselves available. Otherwise they don’t truly want you. Actions not words..

DO IT DO IT!

no. fuck that shit. im not one for convincing people i am the best option. either they know or they don't.

So, I am not going to sit here and tell you what other people are telling you.

I am going to talk to you as a scorpio woman to a capricorn woman. I have a lot of experience with Pisces men. I did not fight for them nor steal them, per se... They naturally fell in love with me.

One kept it a secret that he had a girlfriend. Every night I would see him (with no girlfriend). This means he was not in love with his girlfriend, because they are very clingy in love. We got together and when I found out about the other girl, I ran... But he asked me why didn't I fight for him, because he didn't want to be with her anymore. Pisces men will stay with their other half out of duty, not wanting to hurt the other party, and wanting to remain the good guy. But if someone they are more compatible with shows up, he'll drop her like a hot potato.

I'll give you two more examples...

My baby daddy is a Pisces and he left his country and his wife behind to start a new life out here. Out of obligation they would still speak, but when he met me he cut her off! We were glued at the hip/ inseparable for years, but he started to loose his mind with possessiveness and started to hit me... that's not love, so I took our baby and disappeared.

My current boyfriend is a Pisces and we have been friends for 16 years, before we recently started dating. He always had a crush on me, but for me it was just platonic for the 16 years, plus, he had a girlfriend that I was friends with. About a year into our friendships the girlfriend recognized the signs that he loved me more than her, because of the way he was treating me and I decided to retreat and stop being friends with the both of them, but then I ran into the Pisces by himself and he convinced me to start speaking to him again, so we did speak as friends for 15 years and he would tell me he liked me, but I was always in some other relationship and I respected his girlfriend too much and I just didn't see the potential. Eventually, (recently), I started returning his flirtations and telling him I loved him... Guess what? He kicked his girlfriend out of his house immediately. We're planning on getting married...

Bottom line, the common denominator I had with all these guys (not just these three Pisces men), is that I was not aggressive, I was genuinely sweet, funny, caring, charming, and loving. I appreciated for who they were... There was no game plan. I was just naturally kind and they were drawn to the connection they had with me. Pisces men do not like to be controlled; therefore, if you are pursuing him intentionally, he WILL sense it and he won't like the idea of being with someone like that. It has to unfold naturally, like destiny.

Posted by nanobotz

You actually sound extremely delusional. If he felt the same way about you and he felt like you were worth it too - he wouldn’t be with another woman right now.

He was with her when we met.

They were already in a long-term rship together.

And..he lives in Her house.

So..

What he was trying to do, was get me to leave my husband, family,home, life and security FIRST, while he moves out of Her house, into Mine - after Divorce.

Bear in mind that She (the partner), left her husband, family, home, life and security, for Him to move in to her house, after Divorce.

But..

Because I wasn't leaving my partner FIRST, before he left his partner, he got insecure, and waited More until I left First.

I mean sh*t!

What guarantee did I have that he will even leave her!? None!

So i suggested we Rent together so we BOTH leave our partners at the same tome.

But he said "I don't want to rent."

Yeah because he didn't want to pay out any money to be with me.

I was expected to give up everything for him, to put a roof over his head - just like his partner did - yet he won't pay out a small amount of money on rent Just to start our life together.!?

Basically he was trying to keep his cash for himself - like he did with his partner - while I subsidise Him!

He even used to call me to moan about his partner to me and he would literally say..

"My partner picks fights with me about Money!"

Err well Yeaahh!

She put a roof over his head and gave him security and a life while he keeps all his cash for himself.

Then he wanted the same deal with me.!

Life is Not a Free Ride!

Equal effort or I don’t want it 🗑

Posted by ScorpArie

So, I am not going to sit here and tell you what other people are telling you.

I am going to talk to you as a scorpio woman to a capricorn woman. I have a lot of experience with Pisces men. I did not fight for them nor steal them, per se... They naturally fell in love with me.

One kept it a secret that he had a girlfriend. Every night I would see him (with no girlfriend). This means he was not in love with his girlfriend, because they are very clingy in love. We got together and when I found out about the other girl, I ran... But he asked me why didn't I fight for him, because he didn't want to be with her anymore. Pisces men will stay with their other half out of duty, not wanting to hurt the other party, and wanting to remain the good guy. But if someone they are more compatible with shows up, he'll drop her like a hot potato.

I'll give you two more examples...

My baby daddy is a Pisces and he left his country and his wife behind to start a new life out here. Out of obligation they would still speak, but when he met me he cut her off! We were glued at the hip/ inseparable for years, but he started to loose his mind with possessiveness and started to hit me... that's not love, so I took our baby and disappeared.

My current boyfriend is a Pisces and we have been friends for 16 years, before we recently started dating. He always had a crush on me, but for me it was just platonic for the 16 years, plus, he had a girlfriend that I was friends with. About a year into our friendships the girlfriend recognized the signs that he loved me more than her, because of the way he was treating me and I decided to retreat and stop being friends with the both of them, but then I ran into the Pisces by himself and he convinced me to start speaking to him again, so we did speak as friends for 15 years and he would tell me he liked me, but I was always in some other relationship and I respected his girlfriend too much and I just didn't see the potential. Eventually, (recently), I started returning his flirtations and telling him I loved him... Guess what? He kicked his girlfriend out of his house immediately. We're planning on getting married...

Bottom line, the common denominator I had with all these guys (not just these three Pisces men), is that I was not aggressive, I was genuinely sweet, funny, caring, charming, and loving. I appreciated for who they were... There was no game plan. I was just naturally kind and they were drawn to the connection they had with me. Pisces men do not like to be controlled; therefore, if you are pursuing him intentionally, he WILL sense it and he won't like the idea of being with someone like that. It has to unfold naturally, like destiny.

You might not realize it , but the first part of your post is just going to convince her that she has to fight for them.

Posted by PuzzlePieces

No. It’s not going to happen unless he wants to leave. Being scared to leave = not leaving ever.

You leave when it’s harder to stay than it is to leave.

Fighting for something like this is not a good idea. It’s more like banging your head against a wall. My opinion is you give a person an opportunity & then it’s up to them. You go live your life & if they truly want you they will make themselves available. Otherwise they don’t truly want you. Actions not words..

Exactly!

And for me, it was harder to stay than it was to leave.

My Aries husband would scream at me with his Control because I refused to obey him. I'm not a goddamn doormat!

And when he was not behaving like that,I got silent treatment, refusing sex, affection and conversations.

Then telling me he Loves me!

It SCRWED with my head & heart!

The Pisces guy talked to me, shared himself, connected himself to me. And I to him. And he got to know me in ways my husband never ever even came close to at all.

So I craved the Pisces as could no longer bear the cold empty harsh pain of mycontrplling husband!

Fight with whom? With him yes, I could, with her (his partner) - no.

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Posted by ScorpArie

So, I am not going to sit here and tell you what other people are telling you.

I am going to talk to you as a scorpio woman to a capricorn woman. I have a lot of experience with Pisces men. I did not fight for them nor steal them, per se... They naturally fell in love with me.

One kept it a secret that he had a girlfriend. Every night I would see him (with no girlfriend). This means he was not in love with his girlfriend, because they are very clingy in love. We got together and when I found out about the other girl, I ran... But he asked me why didn't I fight for him, because he didn't want to be with her anymore. Pisces men will stay with their other half out of duty, not wanting to hurt the other party, and wanting to remain the good guy. But if someone they are more compatible with shows up, he'll drop her like a hot potato.

I'll give you two more examples...

My baby daddy is a Pisces and he left his country and his wife behind to start a new life out here. Out of obligation they would still speak, but when he met me he cut her off! We were glued at the hip/ inseparable for years, but he started to loose his mind with possessiveness and started to hit me... that's not love, so I took our baby and disappeared.

My current boyfriend is a Pisces and we have been friends for 16 years, before we recently started dating. He always had a crush on me, but for me it was just platonic for the 16 years, plus, he had a girlfriend that I was friends with. About a year into our friendships the girlfriend recognized the signs that he loved me more than her, because of the way he was treating me and I decided to retreat and stop being friends with the both of them, but then I ran into the Pisces by himself and he convinced me to start speaking to him again, so we did speak as friends for 15 years and he would tell me he liked me, but I was always in some other relationship and I respected his girlfriend too much and I just didn't see the potential. Eventually, (recently), I started returning his flirtations and telling him I loved him... Guess what? He kicked his girlfriend out of his house immediately. We're planning on getting married...

Bottom line, the common denominator I had with all these guys (not just these three Pisces men), is that I was not aggressive, I was genuinely sweet, funny, caring, charming, and loving. I appreciated for who they were... There was no game plan. I was just naturally kind and they were drawn to the connection they had with me. Pisces men do not like to be controlled; therefore, if you are pursuing him intentionally, he WILL sense it and he won't like the idea of being with someone like that. It has to unfold naturally, like destiny.

You might not realize it , but the first part of your post is just going to convince her that she has to fight for them.

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You mean when I told her that that Pisces guy asked why I didn't fight for him? If so, I thought that too...

Posted by pooface222

Posted by PuzzlePieces

No. It’s not going to happen unless he wants to leave. Being scared to leave = not leaving ever.

You leave when it’s harder to stay than it is to leave.

Fighting for something like this is not a good idea. It’s more like banging your head against a wall. My opinion is you give a person an opportunity & then it’s up to them. You go live your life & if they truly want you they will make themselves available. Otherwise they don’t truly want you. Actions not words..

Exactly!

And for me, it was harder to stay than it was to leave.

My Aries husband would scream at me with his Control because I refused to obey him. I'm not a goddamn doormat!

And when he was not behaving like that,I got silent treatment, refusing sex, affection and conversations.

Then telling me he Loves me!

It SCRWED with my head & heart!

The Pisces guy talked to me, shared himself, connected himself to me. And I to him. And he got to know me in ways my husband never ever even came close to at all.

So I craved the Pisces as could no longer bear the cold empty harsh pain of mycontrplling husband!

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I get it. I had one of these & he was a miracle for me after my divorce. But truth is when you’re ready, you will let go & accept someone who is available and not unavailable. Someone who treats you more like the Pisces does. It’s a learning experience & he has shown you that there are guys who will treat you well. But, most likely he can’t be that guy for you. Not fully. It’s hard to accept, but part of your growth process. Hugs ❤️

Posted by ScorpArie

So, I am not going to sit here and tell you what other people are telling you.

I am going to talk to you as a scorpio woman to a capricorn woman. I have a lot of experience with Pisces men. I did not fight for them nor steal them, per se... They naturally fell in love with me.

One kept it a secret that he had a girlfriend. Every night I would see him (with no girlfriend). This means he was not in love with his girlfriend, because they are very clingy in love. We got together and when I found out about the other girl, I ran... But he asked me why didn't I fight for him, because he didn't want to be with her anymore. Pisces men will stay with their other half out of duty, not wanting to hurt the other party, and wanting to remain the good guy. But if someone they are more compatible with shows up, he'll drop her like a hot potato.

I'll give you two more examples...

My baby daddy is a Pisces and he left his country and his wife behind to start a new life out here. Out of obligation they would still speak, but when he met me he cut her off! We were glued at the hip/ inseparable for years, but he started to loose his mind with possessiveness and started to hit me... that's not love, so I took our baby and disappeared.

My current boyfriend is a Pisces and we have been friends for 16 years, before we recently started dating. He always had a crush on me, but for me it was just platonic for the 16 years, plus, he had a girlfriend that I was friends with. About a year into our friendships the girlfriend recognized the signs that he loved me more than her, because of the way he was treating me and I decided to retreat and stop being friends with the both of them, but then I ran into the Pisces by himself and he convinced me to start speaking to him again, so we did speak as friends for 15 years and he would tell me he liked me, but I was always in some other relationship and I respected his girlfriend too much and I just didn't see the potential. Eventually, (recently), I started returning his flirtations and telling him I loved him... Guess what? He kicked his girlfriend out of his house immediately. We're planning on getting married...

Bottom line, the common denominator I had with all these guys (not just these three Pisces men), is that I was not aggressive, I was genuinely sweet, funny, caring, charming, and loving. I appreciated for who they were... There was no game plan. I was just naturally kind and they were drawn to the connection they had with me. Pisces men do not like to be controlled; therefore, if you are pursuing him intentionally, he WILL sense it and he won't like the idea of being with someone like that. It has to unfold naturally, like destiny.

Thank you x x

I Love EVERYTHING you said x

Now..

I was exactly that with him. Sweet Funny Kind Caring Loving Charming etc..

I never pursued him!

I was just all of those things.

AND I told him I want to leave my husband for him.

He told me he wants to leave his partner for me.

But..he was constantly pushing me to leave FIRST!

It scared me!

Why should I leave FIRST with Zero guarantee (apart from his Words), that he would leave her?!?

Can you- as a woman with lots of Pisces man experiences - explain that to me?

So..seeing as i wasn't leaving - because I suggested we BOTH leave together- he got insecure and VANISHED!

And so started the famous Pisces Disappearing Act!

Disappear/Reappear/Disappear/Reappear.

He disappeared out of insecurity because I wasn't leaving my husband!

Now..

Get this..

You said NOT to Pursue a Pisces because they hate being controlled.

Yes. I do know this. I noticed it ages ago with him.

However..

His Disappearing triggered my already present insecurity from my controlling husband who gives me silent treatment!

So guess what??

I began Pursuing the Pisces!

I was lonely as hell in my marriage so with a deeply emotional Pisces guy (in love with each other), who began Disappearing on me, it HURT like f** having him vanish, so I began chasing/pursuing him.

Posted by pooface222

Posted by nanobotz

You actually sound extremely delusional. If he felt the same way about you and he felt like you were worth it too - he wouldn’t be with another woman right now.

He was with her when we met.

They were already in a long-term rship together.

And..he lives in Her house.

So..

What he was trying to do, was get me to leave my husband, family,home, life and security FIRST, while he moves out of Her house, into Mine - after Divorce.

Bear in mind that She (the partner), left her husband, family, home, life and security, for Him to move in to her house, after Divorce.

But..

Because I wasn't leaving my partner FIRST, before he left his partner, he got insecure, and waited More until I left First.

I mean sh*t!

What guarantee did I have that he will even leave her!? None!

So i suggested we Rent together so we BOTH leave our partners at the same tome.

But he said "I don't want to rent."

Yeah because he didn't want to pay out any money to be with me.

I was expected to give up everything for him, to put a roof over his head - just like his partner did - yet he won't pay out a small amount of money on rent Just to start our life together.!?

Basically he was trying to keep his cash for himself - like he did with his partner - while I subsidise Him!

He even used to call me to moan about his partner to me and he would literally say..

"My partner picks fights with me about Money!"

Err well Yeaahh!

She put a roof over his head and gave him security and a life while he keeps all his cash for himself.

Then he wanted the same deal with me.!

Life is Not a Free Ride!

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This is not right! He doesn't love you. I know Pisces men that use women like this and cheat. Move on!

The three Pisces men I was/ am with are super clingy and do all sorts of romantic shit. They'll spend all their money on you and work even harder when they are with you!

I never spent any money on the first Pisces man I mentioned. If I said I needed/ wanted to go get something he would volunteer.

The second one I mentioned, I did not even work when I was with him! He even took care of the home (laundry, cooked, cleaned, ran my errands, bought all my clothes, food, cell phones)... he paid all the bills; etc. I wanted for NOTHING!

The third one gave me the keys to his house he owns immediately and wanted me to basically move in. He also gave me the password to his computer. Has started saving for an International trip and for a big party for me. We have already went out of town and it was so romantic. He bought me the most amazing flowers for my birthday. And because I was stuck at home for my birthday weekend he had all these drinks and amazing food delivered to my house. And like a typical artistic Pisces drew me a picture everyday... and dedicated the most amazing love songs to me. And we've only been dating a month.

So, I am not trying to brag here, what I am trying to say is... if a man of any sign does not treat you like a princess... find one that will! BECAUSE YOU DESERVE IT! Particularly, Pisces men are very romantic and if they are withholding that side of them then they do not love you.

Girl move on! He is just looking for a distraction, because he is miserable in his current relationship and you are just something to toy with.

Posted by pooface222

Posted by ScorpArie

So, I am not going to sit here and tell you what other people are telling you.

I am going to talk to you as a scorpio woman to a capricorn woman. I have a lot of experience with Pisces men. I did not fight for them nor steal them, per se... They naturally fell in love with me.

One kept it a secret that he had a girlfriend. Every night I would see him (with no girlfriend). This means he was not in love with his girlfriend, because they are very clingy in love. We got together and when I found out about the other girl, I ran... But he asked me why didn't I fight for him, because he didn't want to be with her anymore. Pisces men will stay with their other half out of duty, not wanting to hurt the other party, and wanting to remain the good guy. But if someone they are more compatible with shows up, he'll drop her like a hot potato.

I'll give you two more examples...

My baby daddy is a Pisces and he left his country and his wife behind to start a new life out here. Out of obligation they would still speak, but when he met me he cut her off! We were glued at the hip/ inseparable for years, but he started to loose his mind with possessiveness and started to hit me... that's not love, so I took our baby and disappeared.

My current boyfriend is a Pisces and we have been friends for 16 years, before we recently started dating. He always had a crush on me, but for me it was just platonic for the 16 years, plus, he had a girlfriend that I was friends with. About a year into our friendships the girlfriend recognized the signs that he loved me more than her, because of the way he was treating me and I decided to retreat and stop being friends with the both of them, but then I ran into the Pisces by himself and he convinced me to start speaking to him again, so we did speak as friends for 15 years and he would tell me he liked me, but I was always in some other relationship and I respected his girlfriend too much and I just didn't see the potential. Eventually, (recently), I started returning his flirtations and telling him I loved him... Guess what? He kicked his girlfriend out of his house immediately. We're planning on getting married...

Bottom line, the common denominator I had with all these guys (not just these three Pisces men), is that I was not aggressive, I was genuinely sweet, funny, caring, charming, and loving. I appreciated for who they were... There was no game plan. I was just naturally kind and they were drawn to the connection they had with me. Pisces men do not like to be controlled; therefore, if you are pursuing him intentionally, he WILL sense it and he won't like the idea of being with someone like that. It has to unfold naturally, like destiny.

Thank you x x

I Love EVERYTHING you said x

Now..

I was exactly that with him. Sweet Funny Kind Caring Loving Charming etc..

I never pursued him!

I was just all of those things.

AND I told him I want to leave my husband for him.

He told me he wants to leave his partner for me.

But..he was constantly pushing me to leave FIRST!

It scared me!

Why should I leave FIRST with Zero guarantee (apart from his Words), that he would leave her?!?

Can you- as a woman with lots of Pisces man experiences - explain that to me?

So..seeing as i wasn't leaving - because I suggested we BOTH leave together- he got insecure and VANISHED!

And so started the famous Pisces Disappearing Act!

Disappear/Reappear/Disappear/Reappear.

He disappeared out of insecurity because I wasn't leaving my husband!

Now..

Get this..

You said NOT to Pursue a Pisces because they hate being controlled.

Yes. I do know this. I noticed it ages ago with him.

However..

His Disappearing triggered my already present insecurity from my controlling husband who gives me silent treatment!

So guess what??

I began Pursuing the Pisces!

I was lonely as hell in my marriage so with a deeply emotional Pisces guy (in love with each other), who began Disappearing on me, it HURT like f** having him vanish, so I began chasing/pursuing him.

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Well, this is my advice... First things first, you are not happy in your marriage... it's obviously over! GET A DIVORCE, NOW! Life is too short... then, time will tell if you will end up with this Pisces man. If you do not end up with this particular Pisces man, guess what? There are more Pisces men out there. One's that are not married, matured, and have their shit together that will give you the security and love you desire...

Nah I don't fight for a man. I might pursue a man but if I have to work over time and compete with another woman then hell no cause if he doesn't want me and only me then I don't want him.

Why are you making it seem like he is trapped at her house and doesn’t have the financial security to rent with you? Doesn’t he own his own home separate from her where his son is living.

If he wanted to be with you he would leave her, move you and your child into his house and be a Brady bunch family together.

Your love for him keeps you making excuses for why he hasn’t chosen you when you’ve chosen him again and again.

Never. Only they are allowed to fight for me lol. If a man truly wants you, they will make you their priority. You will only be valued the way you value yourself. Do not ever get "love" and "infatuation" mixed up. It really seems like you desire him way more than he desires you. That usually doesn't work out in a woman's favor.

Posted by pooface222

And Nooo

I don't want to hear NO GUY IS WORTH IT!...

Well if you don't want to hear this (aka "I've already determined that I would fight over a guy") then why even create this thread?

And this:

Posted by pooface222

...And I mean a guy you are so deeply in love with that you cannot live without him. You have connection, shared interests, you are very compatible, 'get' each other, chemistry both out and in the bedroom..and more...

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Stop being so dramatic. You sound more like a Fish than he does. ...There is no person on this planet you "can not live without", love has nothing to do with. Trust. That is a lack of self that makes you feel you can't live without someone, because prior to meeting said person you were walking and breathing (and hopefully functioning on some level) just fine I'm sure. You also seem to be living and breathing just fine while he's up under his girlfriend day in and day out, so really that is all a lot of rainbows and fairytale nonsense you are telling yourself. Not the reality of things.

Here's the thing. I've dated a lot of guys. Some I was very compatible with, had good chemistry "in and out of the bedroom" and more, otherwise I would have never have claimed them and made it more. So I can not (and will not) believe that I (or anyone for that matter) needs to be so hung up on one person that I would waste my life waiting while he gets his sh*t together and finally decides to be with me. All this time you are wasting on this man, making threads about him while he's balls deep in some other chick convincing you "I just can't leave" is time you will never get back. His girlfriend is living her (seemingly) best life, as is he even with all his bellyaching about not being happy. While you're doing what? Debating if you should fight for someone that can't pluck up the courage to break up with someone he's not happy with----if any of that is even true.

Fight for yourself. Find someone else that will make you a priority---and I don't know would also be the kind of person that would make a thread about fighting for you.

Anyway, no. I fight for no one. My pride is that heavy that it keeps me grounded.

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....I can’t be with a man I’d lose respect for

Lose? This man would never have earned my respect with this type of BS.

Posted by saggurl88

Nope. I don’t fight for a difficult guy. Especially not one attached to someone else.

But I’ve been told that’s part of the problem with me by them. 😅

For me it’s easier to move on then to deal with stress they are trying to put me through.

I value my self worth over love.

You can love the next 10 people you meet and date. It’s something that is constant and can happen often. People are always afraid to fall in love, cause it happens so easily.

Respect and valuing your partner is harder to find. Which is why I prefer this over love.

I like loving someone but could care less about it when it comes to stressful situations.

Love doesn’t factor in if I’m being disrespected.

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All of this. Especially the finding it easier to just move on then deal with stress part. I'm allergic to drama and stress and I will be out faster than you can sneeze. Too many people in the world to be hung up on one person creating drama or already attached to a kitty cat.

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no. fuck that shit. im not one for convincing people i am the best option. either they know or they don't.

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Posted by LadyNeptune

Why are you making it seem like he is trapped at her house and doesn’t have the financial security to rent with you? Doesn’t he own his own home separate from her where his son is living.

If he wanted to be with you he would leave her, move you and your child into his house and be a Brady bunch family together.

Your love for him keeps you making excuses for why he hasn’t chosen you when you’ve chosen him again and again.

LMAO, "Brady Bunch Family"... and regarding your post: keep on preaching!

Posted by cake

Earth signs always with the uphill battle when it comes to romantic relationships.

Fuck Yeah! No shit! What is up with you Earth signs? This is the best post on this thread...

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Posted by MyStarsShine

....I can’t be with a man I’d lose respect for

Lose? This man would never have earned my respect with this type of BS.

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Yes indeed

He doesn’t sound like he has a backbone and the fact he can’t make his mind up would prove to be a huge turn off for me 😏

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Posted by cake

Earth signs always with the uphill battle when it comes to romantic relationships.

Bah waste of time, but I’m not a capricorn male I’m a sag stellium

Nah, you are a broken record...

Stop projecting your bad day on me, let me live my life like I want, demon.

Pisces females are certified evil for capricorn male in one simple quote !!! But I’m not a capricorn I’m a sag stellium

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No, you are a Capricorn sun; therefore, you are a Capricorn. But it's all good. I like Capricorns but I would hate to be one! They are so unlucky and retarded when it comes to love... But I still love you 🙂

Does he have children?

(Sorry if I missed that)

Posted by pooface222

.....he lives in Her house.

So..

What he was trying to do, was get me to leave my husband, family,home, life and security FIRST, while he moves out of Her house, into Mine - after Divorce.

Bear in mind that She (the partner), left her husband, family, home, life and security, for Him to move in to her house, after Divorce.

...I suggested we Rent together so we BOTH leave our partners at the same tome.

But he said "I don't want to rent."

Yeah because he didn't want to pay out any money to be with me...

Basically he was trying to keep his cash for himself - like he did with his partner - while I subsidise Him!

Jesus. And this is the man you want to fight over? Man can't even open his bank account for you and has you convinced it's because you made him feel insecure about your motives/intentions to be with him lol. Ooooh lawd, I can't.

Sorry, what traits are "compatible" with a dead beat, freeloader and that manipulates people emotionally? I'm curious because you said you had mad chemistry and were so compatible inside and out of the bedroom. You clearly have the ability to see what he is doing, yet..... And they say fixed signs are stubborn as f*ck.

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Posted by PuzzlePieces

No. It’s not going to happen unless he wants to leave. Being scared to leave = not leaving ever.

You leave when it’s harder to stay than it is to leave.

Fighting for something like this is not a good idea. It’s more like banging your head against a wall. My opinion is you give a person an opportunity & then it’s up to them. You go live your life & if they truly want you they will make themselves available. Otherwise they don’t truly want you. Actions not words..

Exactly!

And for me, it was harder to stay than it was to leave.

My Aries husband would scream at me with his Control because I refused to obey him. I'm not a goddamn doormat!

And when he was not behaving like that,I got silent treatment, refusing sex, affection and conversations.

Then telling me he Loves me!

It SCRWED with my head & heart!

The Pisces guy talked to me, shared himself, connected himself to me. And I to him. And he got to know me in ways my husband never ever even came close to at all.

So I craved the Pisces as could no longer bear the cold empty harsh pain of mycontrplling husband!

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Okay makes more sense now. I mean if someone was handing me KD straight out of the box, no butter or milk... while the another was offering to make me KD on fine china and it was part of a four course meal with flowers and candles, the KD doesn't seem like crap. It looks like an "loving homemade meal". It's still sh*tty pasta in a box with powdered cheese.

The Fish seems shiner simply because your ex was a pile of sh*t.

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Posted by ScorpArie

So, I am not going to sit here and tell you what other people are telling you.

I am going to talk to you as a scorpio woman to a capricorn woman. I have a lot of experience with Pisces men. I did not fight for them nor steal them, per se... They naturally fell in love with me.

One kept it a secret that he had a girlfriend. Every night I would see him (with no girlfriend). This means he was not in love with his girlfriend, because they are very clingy in love. We got together and when I found out about the other girl, I ran... But he asked me why didn't I fight for him, because he didn't want to be with her anymore. Pisces men will stay with their other half out of duty, not wanting to hurt the other party, and wanting to remain the good guy. But if someone they are more compatible with shows up, he'll drop her like a hot potato.

I'll give you two more examples...

My baby daddy is a Pisces and he left his country and his wife behind to start a new life out here. Out of obligation they would still speak, but when he met me he cut her off! We were glued at the hip/ inseparable for years, but he started to loose his mind with possessiveness and started to hit me... that's not love, so I took our baby and disappeared.

My current boyfriend is a Pisces and we have been friends for 16 years, before we recently started dating. He always had a crush on me, but for me it was just platonic for the 16 years, plus, he had a girlfriend that I was friends with. About a year into our friendships the girlfriend recognized the signs that he loved me more than her, because of the way he was treating me and I decided to retreat and stop being friends with the both of them, but then I ran into the Pisces by himself and he convinced me to start speaking to him again, so we did speak as friends for 15 years and he would tell me he liked me, but I was always in some other relationship and I respected his girlfriend too much and I just didn't see the potential. Eventually, (recently), I started returning his flirtations and telling him I loved him... Guess what? He kicked his girlfriend out of his house immediately. We're planning on getting married...

Bottom line, the common denominator I had with all these guys (not just these three Pisces men), is that I was not aggressive, I was genuinely sweet, funny, caring, charming, and loving. I appreciated for who they were... There was no game plan. I was just naturally kind and they were drawn to the connection they had with me. Pisces men do not like to be controlled; therefore, if you are pursuing him intentionally, he WILL sense it and he won't like the idea of being with someone like that. It has to unfold naturally, like destiny.

You might not realize it , but the first part of your post is just going to convince her that she has to fight for them.

You mean when I told her that that Pisces guy asked why I didn't fight for him? If so, I thought that too...

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You gave three examples where they "dropped everything" for you once you decided to get more involved with them

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Posted by nanobotz

You actually sound extremely delusional. If he felt the same way about you and he felt like you were worth it too - he wouldn’t be with another woman right now.

He was with her when we met.

They were already in a long-term rship together.

And..he lives in Her house.

So..

What he was trying to do, was get me to leave my husband, family,home, life and security FIRST, while he moves out of Her house, into Mine - after Divorce.

Bear in mind that She (the partner), left her husband, family, home, life and security, for Him to move in to her house, after Divorce.

But..

Because I wasn't leaving my partner FIRST, before he left his partner, he got insecure, and waited More until I left First.

I mean sh*t!

What guarantee did I have that he will even leave her!? None!

So i suggested we Rent together so we BOTH leave our partners at the same tome.

But he said "I don't want to rent."

Yeah because he didn't want to pay out any money to be with me.

I was expected to give up everything for him, to put a roof over his head - just like his partner did - yet he won't pay out a small amount of money on rent Just to start our life together.!?

Basically he was trying to keep his cash for himself - like he did with his partner - while I subsidise Him!

He even used to call me to moan about his partner to me and he would literally say..

"My partner picks fights with me about Money!"

Err well Yeaahh!

She put a roof over his head and gave him security and a life while he keeps all his cash for himself.

Then he wanted the same deal with me.!

Life is Not a Free Ride!

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And you are still here asking the what ifs? Girlllllll I understand I do.. I did it for many, many years. Some people are just not able to see past themselves, especially one who you even stated was insecure and depressed.

My words are coming from a place of care and being in your shoes, not the exact story but close enough -No person should depend on another for their worth and value, stop feeling like him not choosing you makes you unworthy (which is what is behind the hurt and pain). You are a lovable person and are blocking yourself off from others by expending so much energy in this.

Posted by IMNOTEVENREALPisces females are certified evil for capricorn male in one simple quote !!!

The duality of capricorn men

Posted by pooface222

So..seeing as i wasn't leaving - because I suggested we BOTH leave together- he got insecure and VANISHED!

And so started the famous Pisces Disappearing Act!

Disappear/Reappear/Disappear/Reappear.

He disappeared out of insecurity because I wasn't leaving my husband!

Naw, he disappeared because he wasn't able to get his way and couldn't easily manipulate you.

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Posted by MyStarsShine

....I can’t be with a man I’d lose respect for

Lose? This man would never have earned my respect with this type of BS.

Yes indeed

He doesn’t sound like he has a backbone and the fact he can’t make his mind up would prove to be a huge turn off for me 😏

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After reading the rest, I don't think his lack of backbone is the issue. He actually has quite the nerve and skill to try to get not one, but two woman taking care of his grown a**. He may be breaking down the OP if she's willing to fight for him when he's offered her no more than words and an ear/shoulder to cry on. Jokes on him Caps don't part with money easily. That was his downfall lol.

OP, this Fish doesn't want you to fight for him. Unlike you, he wants you to put up (the cash and house) or shut up. If you want "your" man, he has told you what you need to do.

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Posted by hydorah

Posted by ScorpArie

So, I am not going to sit here and tell you what other people are telling you.

I am going to talk to you as a scorpio woman to a capricorn woman. I have a lot of experience with Pisces men. I did not fight for them nor steal them, per se... They naturally fell in love with me.

One kept it a secret that he had a girlfriend. Every night I would see him (with no girlfriend). This means he was not in love with his girlfriend, because they are very clingy in love. We got together and when I found out about the other girl, I ran... But he asked me why didn't I fight for him, because he didn't want to be with her anymore. Pisces men will stay with their other half out of duty, not wanting to hurt the other party, and wanting to remain the good guy. But if someone they are more compatible with shows up, he'll drop her like a hot potato.

I'll give you two more examples...

My baby daddy is a Pisces and he left his country and his wife behind to start a new life out here. Out of obligation they would still speak, but when he met me he cut her off! We were glued at the hip/ inseparable for years, but he started to loose his mind with possessiveness and started to hit me... that's not love, so I took our baby and disappeared.

My current boyfriend is a Pisces and we have been friends for 16 years, before we recently started dating. He always had a crush on me, but for me it was just platonic for the 16 years, plus, he had a girlfriend that I was friends with. About a year into our friendships the girlfriend recognized the signs that he loved me more than her, because of the way he was treating me and I decided to retreat and stop being friends with the both of them, but then I ran into the Pisces by himself and he convinced me to start speaking to him again, so we did speak as friends for 15 years and he would tell me he liked me, but I was always in some other relationship and I respected his girlfriend too much and I just didn't see the potential. Eventually, (recently), I started returning his flirtations and telling him I loved him... Guess what? He kicked his girlfriend out of his house immediately. We're planning on getting married...

Bottom line, the common denominator I had with all these guys (not just these three Pisces men), is that I was not aggressive, I was genuinely sweet, funny, caring, charming, and loving. I appreciated for who they were... There was no game plan. I was just naturally kind and they were drawn to the connection they had with me. Pisces men do not like to be controlled; therefore, if you are pursuing him intentionally, he WILL sense it and he won't like the idea of being with someone like that. It has to unfold naturally, like destiny.

You might not realize it , but the first part of your post is just going to convince her that she has to fight for them.

You mean when I told her that that Pisces guy asked why I didn't fight for him? If so, I thought that too...

You gave three examples where they "dropped everything" for you once you decided to get more involved with them

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Not exactly... the first one wanted to make sure I meant it (the way I see it).

The second one was not involved anymore, as he had no intentions of getting back with her.

The third one said that he never loved her...

Are you a Pisces male?

No. I would feel like it’s a waste of my time/life.

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Posted by cake

Earth signs always with the uphill battle when it comes to romantic relationships.

Bah waste of time, but I’m not a capricorn male I’m a sag stellium

Nah, you are a broken record...

Stop projecting your bad day on me, let me live my life like I want, demon.

Pisces females are certified evil for capricorn male in one simple quote !!! But I’m not a capricorn I’m a sag stellium

No, you are a Capricorn sun; therefore, you are a Capricorn. But it's all good. I like Capricorns but I would hate to be one! They are so unlucky and retarded when it comes to love... But I still love you 🙂

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Short answer: no

TLDR answer: still a no

you´ve already lost this battle ....

No I don't believe in fighting for men. I don't want to be with anyone who only considers me an option.

Hell no! No man is worth my self-respect. One of my exes cheated on me. I only contacted the other woman to find out how long I had been a fool for. I got my answer from her and told her to keep him. Why would anyone want to keep a scumbag that disrespects them?

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Posted by nanobotz

You actually sound extremely delusional. If he felt the same way about you and he felt like you were worth it too - he wouldn’t be with another woman right now.

He was with her when we met.

They were already in a long-term rship together.

And..he lives in Her house.

So..

What he was trying to do, was get me to leave my husband, family,home, life and security FIRST, while he moves out of Her house, into Mine - after Divorce.

Bear in mind that She (the partner), left her husband, family, home, life and security, for Him to move in to her house, after Divorce.

But..

Because I wasn't leaving my partner FIRST, before he left his partner, he got insecure, and waited More until I left First.

I mean sh*t!

What guarantee did I have that he will even leave her!? None!

So i suggested we Rent together so we BOTH leave our partners at the same tome.

But he said "I don't want to rent."

Yeah because he didn't want to pay out any money to be with me.

I was expected to give up everything for him, to put a roof over his head - just like his partner did - yet he won't pay out a small amount of money on rent Just to start our life together.!?

Basically he was trying to keep his cash for himself - like he did with his partner - while I subsidise Him!

He even used to call me to moan about his partner to me and he would literally say..

"My partner picks fights with me about Money!"

Err well Yeaahh!

She put a roof over his head and gave him security and a life while he keeps all his cash for himself.

Then he wanted the same deal with me.!

Life is Not a Free Ride!

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He sounds like a scammer

Run.

Posted by ScorpArie

So, I am not going to sit here and tell you what other people are telling you.

I am going to talk to you as a scorpio woman to a capricorn woman. I have a lot of experience with Pisces men. I did not fight for them nor steal them, per se... They naturally fell in love with me.

One kept it a secret that he had a girlfriend. Every night I would see him (with no girlfriend). This means he was not in love with his girlfriend, because they are very clingy in love. We got together and when I found out about the other girl, I ran... But he asked me why didn't I fight for him, because he didn't want to be with her anymore. Pisces men will stay with their other half out of duty, not wanting to hurt the other party, and wanting to remain the good guy. But if someone they are more compatible with shows up, he'll drop her like a hot potato.

I'll give you two more examples...

My baby daddy is a Pisces and he left his country and his wife behind to start a new life out here. Out of obligation they would still speak, but when he met me he cut her off! We were glued at the hip/ inseparable for years, but he started to loose his mind with possessiveness and started to hit me... that's not love, so I took our baby and disappeared.

My current boyfriend is a Pisces and we have been friends for 16 years, before we recently started dating. He always had a crush on me, but for me it was just platonic for the 16 years, plus, he had a girlfriend that I was friends with. About a year into our friendships the girlfriend recognized the signs that he loved me more than her, because of the way he was treating me and I decided to retreat and stop being friends with the both of them, but then I ran into the Pisces by himself and he convinced me to start speaking to him again, so we did speak as friends for 15 years and he would tell me he liked me, but I was always in some other relationship and I respected his girlfriend too much and I just didn't see the potential. Eventually, (recently), I started returning his flirtations and telling him I loved him... Guess what? He kicked his girlfriend out of his house immediately. We're planning on getting married...

Bottom line, the common denominator I had with all these guys (not just these three Pisces men), is that I was not aggressive, I was genuinely sweet, funny, caring, charming, and loving. I appreciated for who they were... There was no game plan. I was just naturally kind and they were drawn to the connection they had with me. Pisces men do not like to be controlled; therefore, if you are pursuing him intentionally, he WILL sense it and he won't like the idea of being with someone like that. It has to unfold naturally, like destiny.

I find another man who needs another woman to leave an already bad one a pussy.

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Posted by ScorpArie

So, I am not going to sit here and tell you what other people are telling you.

I am going to talk to you as a scorpio woman to a capricorn woman. I have a lot of experience with Pisces men. I did not fight for them nor steal them, per se... They naturally fell in love with me.

One kept it a secret that he had a girlfriend. Every night I would see him (with no girlfriend). This means he was not in love with his girlfriend, because they are very clingy in love. We got together and when I found out about the other girl, I ran... But he asked me why didn't I fight for him, because he didn't want to be with her anymore. Pisces men will stay with their other half out of duty, not wanting to hurt the other party, and wanting to remain the good guy. But if someone they are more compatible with shows up, he'll drop her like a hot potato.

I'll give you two more examples...

My baby daddy is a Pisces and he left his country and his wife behind to start a new life out here. Out of obligation they would still speak, but when he met me he cut her off! We were glued at the hip/ inseparable for years, but he started to loose his mind with possessiveness and started to hit me... that's not love, so I took our baby and disappeared.

My current boyfriend is a Pisces and we have been friends for 16 years, before we recently started dating. He always had a crush on me, but for me it was just platonic for the 16 years, plus, he had a girlfriend that I was friends with. About a year into our friendships the girlfriend recognized the signs that he loved me more than her, because of the way he was treating me and I decided to retreat and stop being friends with the both of them, but then I ran into the Pisces by himself and he convinced me to start speaking to him again, so we did speak as friends for 15 years and he would tell me he liked me, but I was always in some other relationship and I respected his girlfriend too much and I just didn't see the potential. Eventually, (recently), I started returning his flirtations and telling him I loved him... Guess what? He kicked his girlfriend out of his house immediately. We're planning on getting married...

Bottom line, the common denominator I had with all these guys (not just these three Pisces men), is that I was not aggressive, I was genuinely sweet, funny, caring, charming, and loving. I appreciated for who they were... There was no game plan. I was just naturally kind and they were drawn to the connection they had with me. Pisces men do not like to be controlled; therefore, if you are pursuing him intentionally, he WILL sense it and he won't like the idea of being with someone like that. It has to unfold naturally, like destiny.

I find another man who needs another woman to leave an already bad one a pussy.

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