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Porn isn't cheating.

It might be distasteful to you, and you might not want to be with a person who watches porn, and that certainly is your right.

But to call it cheating is going too far. You may indeed want to examine yourself and why it puts you in an emotional state where someone watching a video is equivalent to actual sexual intercourse.
See, this is my logical stand point on it.

I created this thread, really trying to figure out the reasoning for the thought process of porn equates to cheating. Because cheating to me, would be physical or emotional with anotherperson. Porn isn't personal, so I can't understand it.

I am really trying to wrap my mind around how people think otherwise. I still can't really grasp it though. I want someone to post and give me a detailed rationale on why they feel this way.

Cause when I talked to my friend, it was just "I should be good enough".

I just am curious as to why people feel this way.
All lies. You made it for validation. You could have posed the same question and left ya friend out of it. But you wanted to seem above her.
The amount of irony in this post is over 90000

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You don't get women by being agreeable. Man up bruh
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So this girl I know is talking to me on facebook asking me for advice. She's all boohooing cause she said her boyfriend was cheating on her. I asked with who, she tells me he's been watching porn! So I get confused by this. So I ask her, wait you think watching porn is cheating? YES, she says. I ask hey why. "I should be enough for him! He shouldn't need anything or anyone else" I told her I couldn't relate to her cause I didn't think the same and to ask someone else for sympathy.

This shit is nuts to me, but it got me thinking, maybe there are more girls like this out there. Do some of you girls think this way too?
I f*ck*ng love PORN!!! Lololololol. She is crazy. That's not cheating at all! Maybe he need the stimulation before sex or something. No reason to get mad. I can see if he was having webcam sex with someone online or physical sex with someone on the streets..... But porn..... tell her 22 year old *ss to lay low and join him!!!
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Yeah a friend of mine feels the same way about porn. Her boyfriend has a thing for Japanese porn, and she felt like she should have been enough for him.

*shrugs*
a lot of women are like this though,

my man told me one of his friends have to "hide" or just not do it around her, but he felt GUILTY for even wanting to watch it or "hide" it, when there's no reason to feel guilty but because she imposed this guilt on him, he won't feel "safe" wanting to watch, ..is some anime that has some sexy girls and it's cartoon! this was years ago. And this isn't porn at all!!! just anime.

and she got upset why he was watching the sexy cartoon. So he just avoids it.

edit - he wants to keep the PEACE so he just doesn't bother anymore.



Oh btw, he is with a libra sun woman, so he wants to keep the peace.


But don't you think it's sad that she didn't value his feelings as well? That what his needs were curtailed?

Cause I kind of see this as he is being punished for her insecurities. Right or wrong.
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well they have a good relationship, so it's not hurtin him.



it's not that important to him ...because to him, she is more important than some sexy anime.

if that's what she wants then that is what he will give her.



so it depends on the man.
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Porn isn't cheating.

It might be distasteful to you, and you might not want to be with a person who watches porn, and that certainly is your right.

But to call it cheating is going too far. You may indeed want to examine yourself and why it puts you in an emotional state where someone watching a video is equivalent to actual sexual intercourse.
See, this is my logical stand point on it.

I created this thread, really trying to figure out the reasoning for the thought process of porn equates to cheating. Because cheating to me, would be physical or emotional with anotherperson. Porn isn't personal, so I can't understand it.

I am really trying to wrap my mind around how people think otherwise. I still can't really grasp it though. I want someone to post and give me a detailed rationale on why they feel this way.

Cause when I talked to my friend, it was just "I should be good enough".

I just am curious as to why people feel this way.
All lies. You made it for validation. You could have posed the same question and left ya friend out of it. But you wanted to seem above her.
The amount of irony in this post is over 90000


You don't get women by being agreeable. Man up bruh
Being ugly and flowing with jealousy get's you nothing at all.

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Agreed. Glad I don't have that issue.
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Yeah a friend of mine feels the same way about porn. Her boyfriend has a thing for Japanese porn, and she felt like she should have been enough for him.

*shrugs*
a lot of women are like this though,

my man told me one of his friends have to "hide" or just not do it around her, but he felt GUILTY for even wanting to watch it or "hide" it, when there's no reason to feel guilty but because she imposed this guilt on him, he won't feel "safe" wanting to watch, ..is some anime that has some sexy girls and it's cartoon! this was years ago. And this isn't porn at all!!! just anime.

and she got upset why he was watching the sexy cartoon. So he just avoids it.

edit - he wants to keep the PEACE so he just doesn't bother anymore.



Oh btw, he is with a libra sun woman, so he wants to keep the peace.


But don't you think it's sad that she didn't value his feelings as well? That what his needs were curtailed?

Cause I kind of see this as he is being punished for her insecurities. Right or wrong.
well they have a good relationship, so it's not hurtin him.



it's not that important to him ...because to him, she is more important than some sexy anime.

if that's what she wants then that is what he will give her.



so it depends on the man.
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Ahhh ok.

But I also kind of wonder why she has issues with sexy animes, especially given those aren't real people.
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Yeah a friend of mine feels the same way about porn. Her boyfriend has a thing for Japanese porn, and she felt like she should have been enough for him.

*shrugs*
a lot of women are like this though,

my man told me one of his friends have to "hide" or just not do it around her, but he felt GUILTY for even wanting to watch it or "hide" it, when there's no reason to feel guilty but because she imposed this guilt on him, he won't feel "safe" wanting to watch, ..is some anime that has some sexy girls and it's cartoon! this was years ago. And this isn't porn at all!!! just anime.

and she got upset why he was watching the sexy cartoon. So he just avoids it.

edit - he wants to keep the PEACE so he just doesn't bother anymore.



Oh btw, he is with a libra sun woman, so he wants to keep the peace.


But don't you think it's sad that she didn't value his feelings as well? That what his needs were curtailed?

Cause I kind of see this as he is being punished for her insecurities. Right or wrong.
well they have a good relationship, so it's not hurtin him.



it's not that important to him ...because to him, she is more important than some sexy anime.

if that's what she wants then that is what he will give her.



so it depends on the man.
Ahhh ok.

But I also kind of wonder why she has issues with sexy animes, especially given those aren't real people.
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well that's easy...she has deep insecurity.

she thinks that she's not good enough, and him giving him "assurance" helps her.

this depends on each individual man.

some men will NEVER give assurance to a woman and therefore they have a rotten relationship because he didn't understand her deep insecurities, and take care /nurture them so she doesn't have to feel bad and resentful.

while other women are fine with sexy anime women and know that their men won't go out and cheat.

these women would feel secure because they don't feel threat from the sexy cartoon.

they are more secure.



edit this is also due to incompatibility and compatibility.

if you want to be with a very deeply insecure woman you have to take care of her insecurities.
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I would think a man who likes porn is less likely to cheat. Probably would oddly be the type of man you can actually trust. If a man enjoys porn that means he doesn't go out and fulfill his deep needs and fantasies, but enjoys them in a more unrealistic way. Those types of guys might have a high sex drive but they control it better through porn. Otherwise they would just go out and fuck the women rather then watch porn.
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I would think a man who likes porn is less likely to cheat. Probably would oddly be the type of man you can actually trust. If a man enjoys porn that means he doesn't go out and fulfill his deep needs and fantasies, but enjoys them in a more unrealistic way. Those types of guys might have a high sex drive but they control it better through porn. Otherwise they would just go out and fuck the women rather then watch porn.
I think you're right.

there are men who have low sex drive and would rather just chill all the time.

but assertive aggressive men channel that through their career and work too, so it tires them out.

if they have no work and sit at home all day, drinking beer, they are gonna be sitting around watching porn and being horny.

I don't think many women want that type.

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Well according to me it is wrong to watch once you are in a relationship. There are ethical issues also but that is a different thing. The time you could have spent with your lover you are spending on something which gives you instant gratification and is bad for your mental health like drugs. The girl's reasoning is wrong but she is right to feel bad as trust is broken. But that is for the couples to decide. Some are open and some are not.
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I don't think your friend isn't figuring out her boundaries, it's clear that she knows her boundaries and her standards. She has every right to be upset that he's watching porn. Knowing that someone you love is having a wack over someone else fucking hurts and if it doesn't hurt well then that means you're just desensitised, you lowered your standards to deal with the pain....don't expect other people have to lower theirs to understand your wavelength when you know all too well where they're at.

My first boyfriend never watched porn when he was with me there are people out there who are decent and not stupid enough to get caught.
I completely agree. Personally, I’ve always preferred sharing intimacy with someone else.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with masturbating for releasing the biological clock that ticks, but when someone is masturbating for sexual release above all things, when there is the viewing of the pictures of the lustful, undressed bodies, then it could be considered wrong. It would be the gratification of self, by self, for self. Very selfish. It is a waste of time.

But if someone is attempting to understand themselves: an inexperienced person, and there is a need to express the energies, and they don’t have the ability to share the expression/the need for sexual release with someone else then it isn’t wrong. I think if masturbation is taken to the extreme then it is very detrimental, but if someone is learning and using a constructive manner of release then it’s beneficial.

More recently there are many studies being conducted on porn and its negative effects.



VIDEO: TEDx Talk – The Porn Paradox



VIDEO: TEDx Talk – The Great Porn Experiment

http://fightthenewdrug.org/your-brain-on-porn-gary-wilsons-porn-fighting-ba-website-working/



http://fightthenewdrug.org/video-tedx-talk-why-i-stopped-watching-porn/



http://fightthenewdrug.org/psychologist-teenage-brains-porn-video-games-are-a-bad-mix/



Even casually viewing porn has its effects:

http://www.socialcostsofpornography.com/Bridges_Pornographys_Effect_on_Interpersonal_Relationships.pdf

The 3 Types Of Porn Users & How Porn Affects Them:

http://fightthenewdrug.org/the-3-types-of-porn-viewers-how-porn-affects-them/

Porn re-wires your brain:

http://fightthenewdrug.org/how-porn-is-re-wiring-your-brain-and-ruining-sex/

Porn affects the mind, the heart, and the world:

http://fightthenewdrug.org/get-the-facts/



I know I am mostly citing from one site, but within that site they have cited multiple studies even Time magazine had a piece of the negative effects of Porn. If you want to know more, just do your own research. 🙂

Another good site to peruse:

https://protectyoungminds.org/resources/
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There's a lot of truth in there. Also, quite important info... and not just in terms of sexual education, as was proven in most studies - it's quite relevant to mental health as well (a healthy relationship too), and yet... it's still not widely-spread (even tho, there's more sites that i remember - the last time i checked : ). We're still living in times when people see porn as a good thing - kinda similar to the times when smoking was viewed in same way (have a cigar - it's good for your lungs). There's so many people getting ill cause of porn - and they're not even aware that something's wrong with them (dysfunctional life style s, dysfunctional relationships). : ( I suppose... one wes never inspired to check and see if porn can actually be bad thing - if it's something that was already acknowledged as a common and pleasurable activity (beneficial too). And, as it goes with most addictions - the main tendency is to defend it (the lack of education can even work in its favor - since it's easy to find support / even if it's something damaging - if you can find support - you find it easy to be ok with it).
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Believing watching porn is cheating is the same crap as believing emotional cheating is a thing.
it is cheating if you feel more emotions for someone else. and the person you are with feels betrayed because they thought you felt more for them than anyone else in the world.

if there is no emotion, you can throw them away like they are yesterday's newspapers.

which is pretty crappy for the other person who feels more.
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Posted by Capricorn91
Well according to me it is wrong to watch once you are in a relationship. There are ethical issues also but that is a different thing. The time you could have spent with your lover you are spending on something which gives you instant gratification and is bad for your mental health like drugs. The girl's reasoning is wrong but she is right to feel bad as trust is broken. But that is for the couples to decide. Some are open and some are not.
Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11
I don't think your friend isn't figuring out her boundaries, it's clear that she knows her boundaries and her standards. She has every right to be upset that he's watching porn. Knowing that someone you love is having a wack over someone else fucking hurts and if it doesn't hurt well then that means you're just desensitised, you lowered your standards to deal with the pain....don't expect other people have to lower theirs to understand your wavelength when you know all too well where they're at.

My first boyfriend never watched porn when he was with me there are people out there who are decent and not stupid enough to get caught.
I completely agree. Personally, I’ve always preferred sharing intimacy with someone else.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with masturbating for releasing the biological clock that ticks, but when someone is masturbating for sexual release above all things, when there is the viewing of the pictures of the lustful, undressed bodies, then it could be considered wrong. It would be the gratification of self, by self, for self. Very selfish. It is a waste of time.

But if someone is attempting to understand themselves: an inexperienced person, and there is a need to express the energies, and they don’t have the ability to share the expression/the need for sexual release with someone else then it isn’t wrong. I think if masturbation is taken to the extreme then it is very detrimental, but if someone is learning and using a constructive manner of release then it’s beneficial.

More recently there are many studies being conducted on porn and its negative effects.



VIDEO: TEDx Talk – The Porn Paradox



VIDEO: TEDx Talk – The Great Porn Experiment

http://fightthenewdrug.org/your-brain-on-porn-gary-wilsons-porn-fighting-ba-website-working/



http://fightthenewdrug.org/video-tedx-talk-why-i-stopped-watching-porn/



http://fightthenewdrug.org/psychologist-teenage-brains-porn-video-games-are-a-bad-mix/



Even casually viewing porn has its effects:

http://www.socialcostsofpornography.com/Bridges_Pornographys_Effect_on_Interpersonal_Relationships.pdf

The 3 Types Of Porn Users & How Porn Affects Them:

http://fightthenewdrug.org/the-3-types-of-porn-viewers-how-porn-affects-them/

Porn re-wires your brain:

http://fightthenewdrug.org/how-porn-is-re-wiring-your-brain-and-ruining-sex/

Porn affects the mind, the heart, and the world:

http://fightthenewdrug.org/get-the-facts/



I know I am mostly citing from one site, but within that site they have cited multiple studies even Time magazine had a piece of the negative effects of Porn. If you want to know more, just do your own research. 🙂

Another good site to peruse:

https://protectyoungminds.org/resources/
There's a lot of truth in there. Also, quite important info... and not just in terms of sexual education, as was proven in most studies - it's quite relevant to mental health as well (a healthy relationship too), and yet... it's still not widely-spread (even tho, there's more sites that i remember - the last time i checked : ). We're still living in times when people see porn as a good thing - kinda similar to the times when smoking was viewed in same way (have a cigar - it's good for your lungs). There's so many people getting ill cause of porn - and they're not even aware that something's wrong with them (dysfunctional life style s, dysfunctional relationships). : ( I suppose... one wes never inspired to check and see if porn can actually be bad thing - if it's something that was already acknowledged as a common and pleasurable activity (beneficial too). And, as it goes with most addictions - the main tendency is to defend it (the lack of education can even work in its favor - since it's easy to find support / even if it's something damaging - if you can find support - you find it easy to be ok with it).


You're right. I think there is a movement in the next generation that this will become more studied and well documented.

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In this regard we're already there. There was never such interest in healthy relationships - as it is now and that keeps getting better. The rate of success is still quite low - if we're to take the whole human population in consideration, but it's still a good thing... for humanity. There's hope. ^ ^
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*sigh*

Here's some actual, albeit high level sciencey stuff:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who-stray/201307/your-brain-porn-its-not-addictive



It's not "information" from Christian propaganda websites that try to pass themselves off as legitimate.
I think anything one cannot do without (apart from food and water) every day can become an addiction....one guy i knew couldn't have sex with his wife because he became totally hooked on porn. He told me he couldn't function without it...that is an addiction

He is a Scorpio lol

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Believing watching porn is cheating is the same crap as believing emotional cheating is a thing.
it is cheating if you feel more emotions for someone else. and the person you are with feels betrayed because they thought you felt more for them than anyone else in the world.

if there is no emotion, you can throw them away like they are yesterday's newspapers.

which is pretty crappy for the other person who feels more.
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I wouldn't be happy catching my partner watching porn either; but going past that: how do you actually measure the *more part*?
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I think it is because the idea that their partner is looking at other bodies and jerking it, they feel like it is because they are thinking "omg I want to want to fuck that girrrrrrl" *orgasms* on screen and that does not sit well with a lot of us.

Plus how a lot of guys go on about women and how they would bang her, etc, is offensive and hurtful.

I think because how women get into their erotic stories or get crushes when single, it really envelops them and they self-insert, but a lot of that goes to the back burner when with someone, and they expect porn is for when men are single, too... so it is a huge slap to the face.

Just a perspective.
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Ok. I am going to play devil's advocate here.

I see some of the rationale for why some women believe porn equates to cheating. I do not agree with the rationale of it, but I understand it.

Now for the men, I can list a few guys I know do this to their partners. It is not regarding porn, but somewhat similar. There are some that have issues with their girlfriends reading romance novels, and even get upset when the girlfriends call a actor hot.

Why would that be an issue for some guys?
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Ok. I am going to play devil's advocate here.

I see some of the rationale for why some women believe porn equates to cheating. I do not agree with the rationale of it, but I understand it.

Now for the men, I can list a few guys I know do this to their partners. It is not regarding porn, but somewhat similar. There are some that have issues with their girlfriends reading romance novels, and even get upset when the girlfriends call a actor hot.

Why would that be an issue for some guys?
Good question.

I do think guys like that should not be watching porn or be making a point of that early on in a relationship as a boundary thing. People don't discuss boundaries enough, and then find themselves disappointed later on after the rose coloured glasses get slapped off with reality.

TALK, people.
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Ok. I am going to play devil's advocate here.

I see some of the rationale for why some women believe porn equates to cheating. I do not agree with the rationale of it, but I understand it.

Now for the men, I can list a few guys I know do this to their partners. It is not regarding porn, but somewhat similar. There are some that have issues with their girlfriends reading romance novels, and even get upset when the girlfriends call a actor hot.

Why would that be an issue for some guys?
It's still insecurity. Same as women.
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I admit I got a little bent out of shape a couple years ago when my Libra and I were going through a little dry spell and he admitted he jerked off in the shower one morning.

I was like wtf ?! Cause we hadn't done it in weeks ?

So from that perspective I can see where she might be coming from but I don't know their situation

Also I have mars in Scorp ..I only want you to do it with me, not yourself lol
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Believing watching porn is cheating is the same crap as believing emotional cheating is a thing.
it is cheating if you feel more emotions for someone else. and the person you are with feels betrayed because they thought you felt more for them than anyone else in the world.

if there is no emotion, you can throw them away like they are yesterday's newspapers.

which is pretty crappy for the other person who feels more.
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That is very true Lisa. In some ways, it can be worse than being sexually unfaithful as it can run deeper. I have heard some men say *it meant nothing* but then others that have met another woman, connected with her on a deeper emotional level and fell in love with her. That is worse in a way for the other person
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Believing watching porn is cheating is the same crap as believing emotional cheating is a thing.
it is cheating if you feel more emotions for someone else. and the person you are with feels betrayed because they thought you felt more for them than anyone else in the world.

if there is no emotion, you can throw them away like they are yesterday's newspapers.

which is pretty crappy for the other person who feels more.
That is very true Lisa. In some ways, it can be worse than being sexually unfaithful as it can run deeper. I have heard some men say *it meant nothing* but then others that have met another woman, connected with her on a deeper emotional level and fell in love with her. That is worse in a way for the other person
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See I am kind of weird, and I acknowledge it. I don't find porn cheating. And I like to believe I am overall logical about sex and everything. I think sex can be done without emotion, that is can be purely physical that is devoid of any emotion attachment. Because of this, I have less issues of someone just "fucking" someone. But if I find out you are kissing them, holding their hands, having long conversations with them, without having sex, I go ballistic. Because for me, I can understand the animalistic nature of sex.

Weird right?
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Ok. I am going to play devil's advocate here.

I see some of the rationale for why some women believe porn equates to cheating. I do not agree with the rationale of it, but I understand it.

Now for the men, I can list a few guys I know do this to their partners. It is not regarding porn, but somewhat similar. There are some that have issues with their girlfriends reading romance novels, and even get upset when the girlfriends call a actor hot.

Why would that be an issue for some guys?
all my ex's NEVER had an issue with me writing erotica and nor does my man. Infact he ENCOURAGES me to write it, (like that of 50 shades writer) if it is gonna make a lot of money $ $ $ $ hahaha

or just to exercise my talents too, that's good. they love that I have a hobby I am passionate about.



I would never get a with a man who was INSECURE about that.
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Believing watching porn is cheating is the same crap as believing emotional cheating is a thing.
it is cheating if you feel more emotions for someone else. and the person you are with feels betrayed because they thought you felt more for them than anyone else in the world.

if there is no emotion, you can throw them away like they are yesterday's newspapers.

which is pretty crappy for the other person who feels more.
That is very true Lisa. In some ways, it can be worse than being sexually unfaithful as it can run deeper. I have heard some men say *it meant nothing* but then others that have met another woman, connected with her on a deeper emotional level and fell in love with her. That is worse in a way for the other person
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it's called unrequited love which happens a lot.

one feels more and the other wouldn't care. it's sad but it's true. it happens a lot.

i'm sure it happens a lot in high school, with high school crushes, but also in adulthood, it's worse cause you are getting old and you want children and family and these people don't want to be with you. it's horrible. So you have to move on somehow.



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Ok. I am going to play devil's advocate here.

I see some of the rationale for why some women believe porn equates to cheating. I do not agree with the rationale of it, but I understand it.

Now for the men, I can list a few guys I know do this to their partners. It is not regarding porn, but somewhat similar. There are some that have issues with their girlfriends reading romance novels, and even get upset when the girlfriends call a actor hot.

Why would that be an issue for some guys?
all my ex's NEVER had an issue with me writing erotica and nor does my man. Infact he ENCOURAGES me to write it, (like that of 50 shades writer) if it is gonna make a lot of money $ $ $ $ hahaha

or just to exercise my talents too, that's good. they love that I have a hobby I am passionate about.



I would never get a with a man who was INSECURE about that.
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Ok. I am going to play devil's advocate here.

I see some of the rationale for why some women believe porn equates to cheating. I do not agree with the rationale of it, but I understand it.

Now for the men, I can list a few guys I know do this to their partners. It is not regarding porn, but somewhat similar. There are some that have issues with their girlfriends reading romance novels, and even get upset when the girlfriends call a actor hot.

Why would that be an issue for some guys?
all my ex's NEVER had an issue with me writing erotica and nor does my man. Infact he ENCOURAGES me to write it, (like that of 50 shades writer) if it is gonna make a lot of money $ $ $ $ hahaha

or just to exercise my talents too, that's good. they love that I have a hobby I am passionate about.



I would never get a with a man who was INSECURE about that.
Lemme read your stuff 😆
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Believing watching porn is cheating is the same crap as believing emotional cheating is a thing.
it is cheating if you feel more emotions for someone else. and the person you are with feels betrayed because they thought you felt more for them than anyone else in the world.

if there is no emotion, you can throw them away like they are yesterday's newspapers.

which is pretty crappy for the other person who feels more.
That is very true Lisa. In some ways, it can be worse than being sexually unfaithful as it can run deeper. I have heard some men say *it meant nothing* but then others that have met another woman, connected with her on a deeper emotional level and fell in love with her. That is worse in a way for the other person


it's called unrequited love which happens a lot.

one feels more and the other wouldn't care. it's sad but it's true. it happens a lot.

i'm sure it happens a lot in high school, with high school crushes, but also in adulthood, it's worse cause you are getting old and you want children and family and these people don't want to be with you. it's horrible. So you have to move on somehow.



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I have seen it happen with married couples where the man or woman loves their partner but falls for someone else though, so it can happen even when there is love. I guess some people can love more than one person
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Believing watching porn is cheating is the same crap as believing emotional cheating is a thing.
it is cheating if you feel more emotions for someone else. and the person you are with feels betrayed because they thought you felt more for them than anyone else in the world.

if there is no emotion, you can throw them away like they are yesterday's newspapers.

which is pretty crappy for the other person who feels more.
That is very true Lisa. In some ways, it can be worse than being sexually unfaithful as it can run deeper. I have heard some men say *it meant nothing* but then others that have met another woman, connected with her on a deeper emotional level and fell in love with her. That is worse in a way for the other person
See I am kind of weird, and I acknowledge it. I don't find porn cheating. And I like to believe I am overall logical about sex and everything. I think sex can be done without emotion, that is can be purely physical that is devoid of any emotion attachment. Because of this, I have less issues of someone just "fucking" someone. But if I find out you are kissing them, holding their hands, having long conversations with them, without having sex, I go ballistic. Because for me, I can understand the animalistic nature of sex.

Weird right?
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You are a very interesting Scorpio 😄
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Believing watching porn is cheating is the same crap as believing emotional cheating is a thing.
it is cheating if you feel more emotions for someone else. and the person you are with feels betrayed because they thought you felt more for them than anyone else in the world.

if there is no emotion, you can throw them away like they are yesterday's newspapers.

which is pretty crappy for the other person who feels more.
That is very true Lisa. In some ways, it can be worse than being sexually unfaithful as it can run deeper. I have heard some men say *it meant nothing* but then others that have met another woman, connected with her on a deeper emotional level and fell in love with her. That is worse in a way for the other person
See I am kind of weird, and I acknowledge it. I don't find porn cheating. And I like to believe I am overall logical about sex and everything. I think sex can be done without emotion, that is can be purely physical that is devoid of any emotion attachment. Because of this, I have less issues of someone just "fucking" someone. But if I find out you are kissing them, holding their hands, having long conversations with them, without having sex, I go ballistic. Because for me, I can understand the animalistic nature of sex.

Weird right?
You are a very interesting Scorpio 😄

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In other words, weird. lol
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Is it cheating if my wife kept rewinding Gone Girl to try and see Ben Affleck's dong?
I think that is more of a curiosity thing since it's not even half a second of penis, we don't see mens peens in movies so much but we always see women's asses and tits in the style of the male gaze, women being hyper sexualized becomes exhausting to a lot of us.

Everyone made such a huge deal over Ryan Reynold's penis in Deadpool, but when that scene came on I was like... penis? there was a penis?
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Is it cheating if my wife kept rewinding Gone Girl to try and see Ben Affleck's dong?
ben Affleck is naked in there??



Ooooooo!!

joke...

I don't care for ben Affleck. meh. lol

(but others here might)


I want to say this might be easier for British people just due to culture, i have seen many people just randomly come out with ooo look at that guys legs whilst they are holding hands with their husband and he's smiling and she's giving him that sexy eye...



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to be honest, i don't find a lot of men sexy, and I've expressed it on here which ones i think are hot.

like Keanu Reeves and Robert Downey jr. middle aged men who keep in shape and have sex appeal. lol

i don't really care for many. there's not many men out there walking around that look as good as my own man and i'm not just saying that.

when he sees a guy on television or movie we're watching and he'll say, he's a good looking guy don't you think? and it's rare. And i say, not really, not my type. and that's the truth cause i have said i like that Keanu Reeves. lol

i'll tell him honestly you're way hotter to me, you son of a bitch. lol

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Is it cheating if my wife kept rewinding Gone Girl to try and see Ben Affleck's dong?
I think that is more of a curiosity thing since it's not even half a second of penis, we don't see mens peens in movies so much but we always see women's asses and tits in the style of the male gaze, women being hyper sexualized becomes exhausting to a lot of us.

Everyone made such a huge deal over Ryan Reynold's penis in Deadpool, but when that scene came on I was like... penis? there was a penis?
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ryan Reynolds was all making LOL's on that film, it was hard to see him sexy. 😆

and that part when his woman was wanting a strap on, on woman's day, that was just crazy. lol we're like, aww poor ryan. or ..rather, poor deadpool.

edit -- only because he himself looked like he wasn't gonna enjoy it.
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Is it cheating if my wife kept rewinding Gone Girl to try and see Ben Affleck's dong?
I think that is more of a curiosity thing since it's not even half a second of penis, we don't see mens peens in movies so much but we always see women's asses and tits in the style of the male gaze, women being hyper sexualized becomes exhausting to a lot of us.

Everyone made such a huge deal over Ryan Reynold's penis in Deadpool, but when that scene came on I was like... penis? there was a penis?
ryan Reynolds was all making LOL's on that film, it was hard to see him sexy. 😆

and that part when his woman was wanting a strap on, on woman's day, that was just crazy. lol we're like, aww poor ryan. or ..rather, poor deadpool.

edit -- only because he himself looked like he wasn't gonna enjoy it.
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I can't wait for Deadpool 2 lol
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Is it cheating if my wife kept rewinding Gone Girl to try and see Ben Affleck's dong?
ben Affleck is naked in there??



Ooooooo!!

joke...

I don't care for ben Affleck. meh. lol

(but others here might)


I want to say this might be easier for British people just due to culture, i have seen many people just randomly come out with ooo look at that guys legs whilst they are holding hands with their husband and he's smiling and she's giving him that sexy eye...




to be honest, i don't find a lot of men sexy, and I've expressed it on here which ones i think are hot.

like Keanu Reeves and Robert Downey jr. middle aged men who keep in shape and have sex appeal. lol

i don't really care for many. there's not many men out there walking around that look as good as my own man and i'm not just saying that.

when he sees a guy on television or movie we're watching and he'll say, he's a good looking guy don't you think? and it's rare. And i say, not really, not my type. and that's the truth cause i have said i like that Keanu Reeves. lol

i'll tell him honestly you're way hotter to me, you son of a bitch. lol


See this is what i mean...

People seem to read intoi shit way too much on this site lol, in real life it's very different 😄

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i don't really participate on those hot celebrity guy topics unless it's to post Robert downey jr. ect. or critique. which is a Debbie downer. Who wants to hear critiquing?? it's so boring.

but it's still fun to see the ladies enjoy who they think i hot.
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So this girl I know is talking to me on facebook asking me for advice. She's all boohooing cause she said her boyfriend was cheating on her. I asked with who, she tells me he's been watching porn! So I get confused by this. So I ask her, wait you think watching porn is cheating? YES, she says. I ask hey why. "I should be enough for him! He shouldn't need anything or anyone else" I told her I couldn't relate to her cause I didn't think the same and to ask someone else for sympathy.

This shit is nuts to me, but it got me thinking, maybe there are more girls like this out there. Do some of you girls think this way too?
My Cap friend broke up with her fiance because she caught him watching porn. They were together for 3 years, got engaged, moved in together, and then in another 6 weeks she caught him watching porn and bam, all deals were over.

She's a hardcore Christian and she thinks exatly the same way as your friend does.
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Believing watching porn is cheating is the same crap as believing emotional cheating is a thing.
it is cheating if you feel more emotions for someone else. and the person you are with feels betrayed because they thought you felt more for them than anyone else in the world.

if there is no emotion, you can throw them away like they are yesterday's newspapers.

which is pretty crappy for the other person who feels more.
That is very true Lisa. In some ways, it can be worse than being sexually unfaithful as it can run deeper. I have heard some men say *it meant nothing* but then others that have met another woman, connected with her on a deeper emotional level and fell in love with her. That is worse in a way for the other person
See I am kind of weird, and I acknowledge it. I don't find porn cheating. And I like to believe I am overall logical about sex and everything. I think sex can be done without emotion, that is can be purely physical that is devoid of any emotion attachment. Because of this, I have less issues of someone just "fucking" someone. But if I find out you are kissing them, holding their hands, having long conversations with them, without having sex, I go ballistic. Because for me, I can understand the animalistic nature of sex.

Weird right?
You are a very interesting Scorpio 😄


In other words, weird. lol

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Not at all.......just a bit different to most of them?
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Ok. I am going to play devil's advocate here.

I see some of the rationale for why some women believe porn equates to cheating. I do not agree with the rationale of it, but I understand it.

Now for the men, I can list a few guys I know do this to their partners. It is not regarding porn, but somewhat similar. There are some that have issues with their girlfriends reading romance novels, and even get upset when the girlfriends call a actor hot.

Why would that be an issue for some guys?
all my ex's NEVER had an issue with me writing erotica and nor does my man. Infact he ENCOURAGES me to write it, (like that of 50 shades writer) if it is gonna make a lot of money $ $ $ $ hahaha

or just to exercise my talents too, that's good. they love that I have a hobby I am passionate about.



I would never get a with a man who was INSECURE about that.
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Are you going to try and get published Lisa?

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So this girl I know is talking to me on facebook asking me for advice. She's all boohooing cause she said her boyfriend was cheating on her. I asked with who, she tells me he's been watching porn! So I get confused by this. So I ask her, wait you think watching porn is cheating? YES, she says. I ask hey why. "I should be enough for him! He shouldn't need anything or anyone else" I told her I couldn't relate to her cause I didn't think the same and to ask someone else for sympathy.

This shit is nuts to me, but it got me thinking, maybe there are more girls like this out there. Do some of you girls think this way too?
My Cap friend broke up with her fiance because she caught him watching porn. They were together for 3 years, got engaged, moved in together, and then in another 6 weeks she caught him watching porn and bam, all deals were over.

She's a hardcore Christian and she thinks exatly the same way as your friend does.
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See that's a little crazy to me. I mean, I get why she did it. But for me, her response wasn't proportionate to what happened.
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Believing watching porn is cheating is the same crap as believing emotional cheating is a thing.
it is cheating if you feel more emotions for someone else. and the person you are with feels betrayed because they thought you felt more for them than anyone else in the world.

if there is no emotion, you can throw them away like they are yesterday's newspapers.

which is pretty crappy for the other person who feels more.
That is very true Lisa. In some ways, it can be worse than being sexually unfaithful as it can run deeper. I have heard some men say *it meant nothing* but then others that have met another woman, connected with her on a deeper emotional level and fell in love with her. That is worse in a way for the other person
See I am kind of weird, and I acknowledge it. I don't find porn cheating. And I like to believe I am overall logical about sex and everything. I think sex can be done without emotion, that is can be purely physical that is devoid of any emotion attachment. Because of this, I have less issues of someone just "fucking" someone. But if I find out you are kissing them, holding their hands, having long conversations with them, without having sex, I go ballistic. Because for me, I can understand the animalistic nature of sex.

Weird right?
You are a very interesting Scorpio 😄


In other words, weird. lol


Not at all.......just a bit different to most of them?

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I blame my sag venus. Or is it my heavy Libra placements. I don't know, its one of them. lol
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There ARE men who don't care for porn, too, but they appear to be in the minority. So I think those chicks are like "well why can't you be like them?"

But it is hard to believe a guy when he says he isn't into it because everyone else thinks that is a lie. So it just never stops digging into their self esteem, and that sucks.
Men don't really feel much transportation while they watch porn. Most won't even notice who the chick in the video is.
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Porn isn't cheating.

It might be distasteful to you, and you might not want to be with a person who watches porn, and that certainly is your right.

But to call it cheating is going too far. You may indeed want to examine yourself and why it puts you in an emotional state where someone watching a video is equivalent to actual sexual intercourse.
See, this is my logical stand point on it.

I created this thread, really trying to figure out the reasoning for the thought process of porn equates to cheating. Because cheating to me, would be physical or emotional with anotherperson. Porn isn't personal, so I can't understand it.

I am really trying to wrap my mind around how people think otherwise. I still can't really grasp it though. I want someone to post and give me a detailed rationale on why they feel this way.

Cause when I talked to my friend, it was just "I should be good enough".

I just am curious as to why people feel this way.
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Ok, in a way she isn't good enough. He's getting off to someone else. She might not be physically touching him but, he's "imagining" her being there. It's realistic fantasy. To her its emotional cheating. To you it might be perfectly acceptable because you enjoy it. She doesn't enjoy it so.........

I really think it's funny that you are bashing her just for this. The chick is young, naive and reached out to you. What did you do? You blew her off when she's trying to learn and was looking for advice. No wonder this world is fucked up
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Porn isn't cheating.

It might be distasteful to you, and you might not want to be with a person who watches porn, and that certainly is your right.

But to call it cheating is going too far. You may indeed want to examine yourself and why it puts you in an emotional state where someone watching a video is equivalent to actual sexual intercourse.
See, this is my logical stand point on it.

I created this thread, really trying to figure out the reasoning for the thought process of porn equates to cheating. Because cheating to me, would be physical or emotional with anotherperson. Porn isn't personal, so I can't understand it.

I am really trying to wrap my mind around how people think otherwise. I still can't really grasp it though. I want someone to post and give me a detailed rationale on why they feel this way.

Cause when I talked to my friend, it was just "I should be good enough".

I just am curious as to why people feel this way.
Ok, in a way she isn't good enough. He's getting off to someone else. She might not be physically touching him but, he's "imagining" her being there. It's realistic fantasy. To her its emotional cheating. To you it might be perfectly acceptable because you enjoy it. She doesn't enjoy it so.........

I really think it's funny that you are bashing her just for this. The chick is young, naive and reached out to you. What did you do? You blew her off when she's trying to learn and was looking for advice. No wonder this world is fucked up
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I blew her off, so to speak, because I was incapable of giving her the empathy I think she needed. I am not going to sit there and coddle her with false words. I could not relate to her on any level of her thinking that. Does that mean when she asks me if I think she is pretty, I sit there and say "FUCK NO". No, I find her beautiful and state so. But I am not going to sit there and give her advice on something I will never see eye to eye with her with.

I am not her mother, to coddle her. And I refuse to lie to make her feel better.

Bashing? Did you see me call her stupid? No, I said it was fucking weird. Not her.