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I hate to sound like a nag or a firm feminist, but men will marry any woman that has a hole.

Likewise the women will marry any guy who'll have them after a few times around the block.

But women aren't delusional enough to expect a virgin man or a gentleman. They don't have those kind of double standards the way men do.


Men and women generally have always had different criterias in what they find attractive in the opposite sex. What women find attractive about men doesn't necesserily work the other way around, and vice versa. Seems like a no-brainer, is this srsly still up for discussion?


But you're the one who compared the gender the same way.

Edit: women aren't as hard to please as men. Women want things that are realistic and attainable such as financial stability in a man, whereas men want women to become virgins (unattainable), they want them to be obedient, submissive, not more intelligent than them.


Where do I find that kind of males so I can punch them?

I've never met someone like that in my life.

Sure, most of my gender are stupid assholes but most of them set their standards pretty low while women do the opposite.

Every other man in my country. Goal is to marry dumb woman who cooks and cleans, so that he has a servant in his home while he goes out to drink every weekend and cheat on her with all the whores in those places who are as easy as buy me a drink and you can have me. Oh and also, God forbid if those dumb wives aren't virgin! They won't even think about marrying it cause you know, damaged goods...or better how I see it, too scared that another man was better and bigger lol


Urgh, I thought we, as mankind, were over this stupid behaviour you described.

Thanks for elaborating.
Sadly most of the world still thinks that way
Guess I'm just too innocent or idealistic because something like such a behaviour doesn't even cross my mind.

Alright, another thing for my list of stuff to fight for. -.-
I am the biggest idealist, but sometimes statistic proved me wrong. No nice.

And thank you 🤗 The world definitely needs more men fighting for that 😊


I have done so in the past and will continue to do so until my dying day but I don't think it's something you would really like because I'm also fighting for equality in the area of dating. 😛
That is very nice to hear.😊

Ok, share with me what you want from us then. I am all ears 😛


That's pretty simple: consistency.

True equality would imply that a women is willing to do the first step if she likes a man instead of waiting for him to make the first step.

I have no problem with women who don't want to do that but they are neither feminists then nor do they want gender equality because they logically incosistent.

Apart from this is this stance one that is about to become unsustainable, depending on culture, nation and age group.
I don’t have a problem with that. And in a way I think women always do that. Some will come straight at you and others will give you signals to approach.

Funny that I leave in a country where gender equality it’s very well stabilized and in the only place in Europe that I see men always opening doors for women, carry my bags at the airport or helping women with children.

They have pass that moment in history when equality means I am not helping you because you are a woman and you want equality.... hahaha... that I see when I travel to other places in Europe.


Yes, some are very straight and those are the ones I get along with very well and am willing to go beyond the first step.

Helping someone should always be something to do no matter if man or women, or transgender, or whatever.
But that is not very fair on the ones that they are shy and wouldn’t be able to approach 😂

If it’s anything that I have learned in here is that we are all different and it has nothing to do with gender sometimes.

I personally never think if I am approaching or not, but I hate when guys approach me uninvited. In general I just give signals and wait and see. But it’s depends the situation and the person. I never think about gender in that way.


Shy women wouldn't like me.

Yes, being shy is a perfect reason for not approaching someone.

I'm completly fine with that because it is based on personality, not gender.

It's just that a lot of women claim to want equality but what they actually whant is cherry picking and that damages and harm the cause of gender equality pretty heavly because it give those who don't want equality a lot to work with argumentatively.
Cherry picking... we all want that, both genders. That confuses a lot. 😄

But seriously. I am just so over this because I am lucky enough that I don’t feel like I have to think about it. For me socially men and women are the same. At home with your partner it should be the same. At work the same. No different. I feel completely equal to men in here.

But, and it’s a big but, I want to still feel like a woman and in here where I live it’s not problem but in other countries it’s extreme. You are eather less or you are a feminist and you hate men.


I have no problem with that stance.

It's about personal preferences and not about general sterotypes or convetions of how someone is supposed to be.

If you want to be approach by a man and not the other way around it's okay for me as long as it is because that's who you are as a person and not because you are awomen.
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I see I see.

Well, I just don’t think about it 😄. For me is not a gender thing. It’s always personal and about the situation.
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I hate to sound like a nag or a firm feminist, but men will marry any woman that has a hole.

Likewise the women will marry any guy who'll have them after a few times around the block.

But women aren't delusional enough to expect a virgin man or a gentleman. They don't have those kind of double standards the way men do.


Men and women generally have always had different criterias in what they find attractive in the opposite sex. What women find attractive about men doesn't necesserily work the other way around, and vice versa. Seems like a no-brainer, is this srsly still up for discussion?


But you're the one who compared the gender the same way.

Edit: women aren't as hard to please as men. Women want things that are realistic and attainable such as financial stability in a man, whereas men want women to become virgins (unattainable), they want them to be obedient, submissive, not more intelligent than them.


Where do I find that kind of males so I can punch them?

I've never met someone like that in my life.

Sure, most of my gender are stupid assholes but most of them set their standards pretty low while women do the opposite.

Every other man in my country. Goal is to marry dumb woman who cooks and cleans, so that he has a servant in his home while he goes out to drink every weekend and cheat on her with all the whores in those places who are as easy as buy me a drink and you can have me. Oh and also, God forbid if those dumb wives aren't virgin! They won't even think about marrying it cause you know, damaged goods...or better how I see it, too scared that another man was better and bigger lol


Urgh, I thought we, as mankind, were over this stupid behaviour you described.

Thanks for elaborating.
Sadly most of the world still thinks that way
Guess I'm just too innocent or idealistic because something like such a behaviour doesn't even cross my mind.

Alright, another thing for my list of stuff to fight for. -.-
I am the biggest idealist, but sometimes statistic proved me wrong. No nice.

And thank you 🤗 The world definitely needs more men fighting for that 😊


I have done so in the past and will continue to do so until my dying day but I don't think it's something you would really like because I'm also fighting for equality in the area of dating. 😛
That is very nice to hear.😊

Ok, share with me what you want from us then. I am all ears 😛


That's pretty simple: consistency.

True equality would imply that a women is willing to do the first step if she likes a man instead of waiting for him to make the first step.

I have no problem with women who don't want to do that but they are neither feminists then nor do they want gender equality because they logically incosistent.

Apart from this is this stance one that is about to become unsustainable, depending on culture, nation and age group.
I don’t have a problem with that. And in a way I think women always do that. Some will come straight at you and others will give you signals to approach.

Funny that I leave in a country where gender equality it’s very well stabilized and in the only place in Europe that I see men always opening doors for women, carry my bags at the airport or helping women with children.

They have pass that moment in history when equality means I am not helping you because you are a woman and you want equality.... hahaha... that I see when I travel to other places in Europe.


Yes, some are very straight and those are the ones I get along with very well and am willing to go beyond the first step.

Helping someone should always be something to do no matter if man or women, or transgender, or whatever.
But that is not very fair on the ones that they are shy and wouldn’t be able to approach 😂

If it’s anything that I have learned in here is that we are all different and it has nothing to do with gender sometimes.

I personally never think if I am approaching or not, but I hate when guys approach me uninvited. In general I just give signals and wait and see. But it’s depends the situation and the person. I never think about gender in that way.


Shy women wouldn't like me.

Yes, being shy is a perfect reason for not approaching someone.

I'm completly fine with that because it is based on personality, not gender.

It's just that a lot of women claim to want equality but what they actually whant is cherry picking and that damages and harm the cause of gender equality pretty heavly because it give those who don't want equality a lot to work with argumentatively.
Cherry picking... we all want that, both genders. That confuses a lot. 😄

But seriously. I am just so over this because I am lucky enough that I don’t feel like I have to think about it. For me socially men and women are the same. At home with your partner it should be the same. At work the same. No different. I feel completely equal to men in here.

But, and it’s a big but, I want to still feel like a woman and in here where I live it’s not problem but in other countries it’s extreme. You are eather less or you are a feminist and you hate men.


I have no problem with that stance.

It's about personal preferences and not about general sterotypes or convetions of how someone is supposed to be.

If you want to be approach by a man and not the other way around it's okay for me as long as it is because that's who you are as a person and not because you are awomen.
I see I see.

Well, I just don’t think about it 😄. For me is not a gender thing. It’s always personal and about the situation.


Sooo, you would go to a guy and ask him out on drink? 😛
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Yes. I have done it in the past. But by then I am pretty sure that he would go for a drink with me and I know him well 😄 I don’t go around asking men to have drinks with me 😄
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It sounds like you want to marry a boring woman

Taurus-natural choice for them? Then they want a side who's all the opposite of that lol

Don't get too touchy about it tho, Tauruses around...this is solely based on certain stories here


If they want a woman that says, Yes dear. Here's your supper dear. I made you a coffee dear. Let me fix you a sandwich..

One day that woman is gonna snap and it's going to be ugly. She'll probably be some refined closet psycho that ends up with an eye twitch. She'll probably chops his nuts of and puts them in a blender.

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• Emotionally Stable

• Empathetic

• Loyal

• Patience

• Refinement

• Sincerity

^ None(!) of the listed qualities from the OP makes a woman a "yay" sayer. Funny how many women think that healthy and valuable qualities like these make them "weak & obedient"
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That's pretty simple: consistency.

True equality would imply that a women is willing to do the first step if she likes a man instead of waiting for him to make the first step.

I have no problem with women who don't want to do that but they are neither feminists then nor do they want gender equality because they logically incosistent.

Apart from this is this stance one that is about to become unsustainable, depending on culture, nation and age group.
the thing is for most cultures, many women do make the first move. it's just very subtle and easily misinterpreted but women flirt. they stare, smile, laugh, touch. they give subtle consent for men to approach or "make the first move". i don't think that many women (if any) won't take that step to get the attention of a man they are attracted to.
Which is still a very comfortable position because it doesn't involve any risk most of the time.

Imagine a reversed situation in which the man is lokking at her while playing with his hair.

Would she get up, go and talk to him? I believe it's safe to assume this would rarely be the case.

The man is the one who risks everything (soical rejection, shaming etc.) while holds all cards.

You yourself stated it can easily be misinterpreted which is a huge problem in a time and society where the topic of sexual harrassment, rape and mistreatment are constantly in the news. Don't get me wrong, it is good those things come to light and are fought but it creates a lot of insecurity for those men who are unlikely to do such things and for those men it isn't as clear as women assume it is when they do their subtle moves.

it's beyond playing with hair and he doesn't risk rejection if he is able to understand her. yes, i can appreciate that makes it harder for men who aren't able to pick up the clues.

would a woman directly approach? some might. but i think women have to be more cautious in life. what's that saying?

"Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them."


Yes, it made sense for the women in the past but in a society that moving towards equality more and more that argument isn't as strong anymore as it was for the middle ages etc. .

Nowadays a women can kill a men very easily as well due to technology.

It also doesn't matter for her safety if she approaches the man or entices him to come to her.

The risk for her safety is basically the same.

I would even argue it's even higher to end up with a psychopath with the traditional approach because those are more aware of those patterns whereas normla gusy might be completly oblivious towards them or are just to shy to act.

There is no reason to not approach him besides the traditional gender argument. That's the whole point.

You want something/something than you should take an proactive approach instead of hoping something is going to happen.

that's fine to say as a man but the reality is you don't live in the same world as a woman who from the time she is a small child, she is taught to be afraid.

you make a logical and reasoned argument but emotions, especially a state of mind that has been drummed into you for decades, either explicitly or implicitly, is hard to overcome.

as to the means, well, women don't kill men as often as men (particularly partners or male family members) kill women. 6 women were killed weekly last year in the UK by men. most women are killed in their home. men are more likely to be killed by other men and men they don't know.

so yes, technology allows for an equal playing field but this isn't reflected in crime statistics.
I grew up while suffering emotional, psychological and even, although, rarely physical abuse/violence and therefore know how it is to feel helpless weak etc. even if I'm a men.

I completly agree on the statistics but my point that an proactive approach might net an overall increased level of security for women still stands.



i'm sincerely sorry that you had that experience growing up. it's not something anyone should go through ever. however i would still maintain, it's not the same as living life as a woman. there is not one source of this message, it's everywhere, all the time. it's to the point that sometimes you can't distinguish the message from anything else.

and certainly i'm not blaming men for this situation that women find themselves in. women are to blame as well but it's also the media, society, culture, history. its a story that we as a collective tell ourselves. it's so incredibly pervasive and yes, it's slowly changing, very much with the help of men (which, let's face it, it couldn't happen without) but it's still present and very much an everyday reality for women.

until you quickly walk down a dark road with your keys poking out through your fingers then it's just so difficult to share that with you.

i commend your efforts to improve things for both genders. it's needed and long overdue.


I, agree I can't feel exactly the same way a women does or would, yes, but I can approximately.

There was also an experiment in which women masked themselves as men and move through everyday situations in a bigger city.

Most of them were completly horrified and shocked by all the natural hostility men show towards each other. It is different from the experiences women have but it shows that men have to go through at least similar experiences.

I also once was robbed and beaten up by multiple guys and remember the unease I felt on unlight roads after that for short time. Again, not the exact same but similar.

I believe it's vital for the proces of equality that both side, men and women, aren't that different and can emphasize more with each other that tradition want's us to believe.

Understanding each other and ourselves better is the best way to overcome those boundaries.
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i agree wholeheartedly. life sucks for men. i don't doubt it. there is much to be improved for you guys as well. society fucks men over too. one huge disservice, bringing us full circle, is that all men are arseholes that shouldn't be trusted with anything! your heart, your child, your body. i think that is a massive mistake and incredibly unfair.

with safety, the irony is, women are told explicitly to be afraid of unknown men outside of the home (ie walking alone late at night, drinking in a bar alone, don't wear anything too revealing, don't drink too much) when in reality, they are more likely to be harmed by men they know. most women are killed in their home.

men conversely are more likely to be harmed/killed by men they don't know when they are outside of the home and yet they aren't taught to be cautious in those environments.

it's fucked up.
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When you meet a woman for whatever reason, whether you’re interested in them or not, what characteristics within them makes you think they have what it takes to be marriage material to a man in the future?

What I can think of as future marriage material in a woman:

• Emotionally Stable

• Empathetic

• Loyal

• Patience

• Refinement

• Sincerity

What characteristics within a woman that makes you think they won’t ever get married?

My views on women that display the below characteristics are not likely to be marriage material:

• Disrespectfulness

• Emotionally unstable

• Gossipy

• Immaturity

• Manipulative

• Selfish

So what are you views on the subject matter? Share any stories you may have too if you wish.

Some people may even dislike positive traits and like negative ones.


a woman can't be all those top half all the time, it's nice if she's like that alot of the time,

some days she feels like being immature...some days selfish other days so unselfish you wanna cry..

other days you see her over at the neighbors gossiping,

and you shake your head,

then later you find out she made a blanket for your grandma and bakes you your favourite pie,

there are times she's gonna be making your eyes wide with her disrespect,

but overall she is respectful.

if you expect perfection, then you're going to find a woman who will fake it until she finds someone who loves her realness.

although the list on the top half sounds like a mother theresa, who never got married. and spent more time on taking care of dozens of people instead of a man and her children.


Actually I heard many times from women-"do whatever he likes and wants until he marries you....then you get it your way"

However I couldn't ever understand this way f thinking and would never do it myself. I'm who I am and if I'm not good enough for you, there's the door. There's someone who I'm perfect for waiting outside somewhere...
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smart men see through that. lol

and you dont know...some smart men want you to fake it cause they wickedly smile deep inside going...'check out that gurrlll she thinks she got one over me" but i'm gonna marry her cause i love her style . cause he wicked too.

lol



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